I suppose "Step 4: Set up Great British Energy" touches on that a bit. But the gulf between that and "net zero by 2030" couldn't be starker. Energy conservation in buildings, transport, land use etc etc seem missed.Johnny Brown said:Nothing on climate?
1) A rational, planned, rapid transition to CO2-free electricity -designed by engineers. I guess that would entail a lot of nuclear and off-shore wind.spidermonkey09 said:Out of interest what are people hoping for climate wise in the manifesto?
Johnny Brown said:Look highly likely I'll be voting Green. Again.
As an abstract thought experiment, if Starmer were to (as he has) ditch the "Peoples Vote" stuff that he pushed so hard in 2019 (to Labour's consequent demise) but otherwise keep much of the 2019 manifesto, do you think the Tories would be on course for victory now?teestub said:Stone, let’s just get Labour in first and prove they can govern effectively. They can then transform the country to a social democratic utopia over the course of 2 or 3 parliaments
I suppose in principle Starmer's "Great Britain Energy" could use gilt financing for lots of wind+nuclear+grid stuff. I think the cost of capital is even more of pinch point for nuclear than it is for offshore wind. Ed Milliband is a Labour minister who I've still got some hope for. I'm clinging to this as my chink of light.Fultonius said:One simple green aim for me, ok 2:
1. Decouple electricity prices from gas prices.
2. Low cost credit for renewable energy projects. We bloody well socialise banks risks, companies risks (by bailing out pensions funds etc.) so why not socialise our future energy system.
Cost of capital is currently one of the biggest barriers to offshore wind development, and one of the few parameters the government could actually tweak.
This website has seemed pretty good to me in the past. https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.htmlOldmanmatt said:Right, election, why do so many people seem to think Labour is a shoe-in? The poling looks closer than I would like to take that bet.
Ok, Labour is aggregating around 44%, Cons 22 ish, but Reform are polling at 11+. A slight upset in Labour’s run and we could be looking at a Con/Reform coalition. Is that too far fetched? Really?
stone said:This website has seemed pretty good to me in the past. https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.htmlOldmanmatt said:Right, election, why do so many people seem to think Labour is a shoe-in? The poling looks closer than I would like to take that bet.
Ok, Labour is aggregating around 44%, Cons 22 ish, but Reform are polling at 11+. A slight upset in Labour’s run and we could be looking at a Con/Reform coalition. Is that too far fetched? Really?
It is hard to get to a Con/Reform coalition from their seat predictions. It is hard for thinly spread votes to get converted into seats. UKIP got no seats in FPTP elections despite sizeable vote share.
stone said:As I've said before, I don't think the Tories are especially inept at implementing Tory policies. Our problems are those policies. We'll have the same problems whichever Party implements them. I hope I'm wrong.