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The inevitable E grade thread
abarro81:
8A+ = approx 8c. I always had E8 in my head as being safe 8a or 8a+? So I'm not sure the E grade gonna help make sense of anything here if it's E8 :lol:
ToxicBilberry:
Get Gresh, Pearson and Randall to make sense out of it with their wanky e-grader
remus:
--- Quote from: abarro81 on April 30, 2024, 09:27:33 pm ---8A+ = approx 8c. I always had E8 in my head as being safe 8a or 8a+? So I'm not sure the E grade gonna help make sense of anything here if it's E8 :lol:
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Presumably going for the Dave Mac school of thought where sport 8b+ solo and sport 7b solo can both be E8 (I know which I'd have a chance on and which I definitely wouldn't).
andy moles:
--- Quote from: SA Chris on April 30, 2024, 12:25:32 pm ---Really? OK, never seen mention of it.
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I think the direct start is Leap of Faith, described as a direct entry to Lost Cause, which IIRC shares that first hold above the break on this.
E8 does seem a bit silly at 8A+ when Transcendence next door seems to be considered too hard for E8 at 7C+.
Source: https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2019/03/third_ascent_of_transcendence_e8_6c_by_dan_varian-71896
Then again, isn't West Side Story traditionally E4 at 7B+? It's almost as if trad grades are not very good for really bouldery routes.
Will Hunt:
--- Quote from: andy moles on May 01, 2024, 08:03:32 am ---isn't West Side Story traditionally E4 at 7B+?
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Pah, luxury! Layby Arete (7B+) is E2 6c.
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