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Lakes Nesting Bird Restrictions
February 13, 2022, 10:23:20 am
Thought I'd put this on here as it might get missed on UKC, the Lakes bird restrictions are out for this year, listed at

https://www.frcc.co.uk/bird-restrictions/

I note that for boulderers, Wallowbarrow Gorge and Swarthbeck Gill (Colonel Hathi) are on the list. There also looks to be some restrictions to certain areas of St Bees.

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#1 Re: Lakes Nesting Bird Restrictions
February 13, 2022, 10:24:55 am
Nice one teestub.

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#2 Re: Lakes Nesting Bird Restrictions
February 13, 2022, 10:34:16 am
I've bouldered in the Lakes for years and this is the first I've heard of any nesting restrictions whatsoever, especially for bouldering. Thanks for highlighting!

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#3 Re: Lakes Nesting Bird Restrictions
February 13, 2022, 10:49:49 am
Gouther is the other one that often has restrictions but I guess those peregrines have moved house this year!

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#4 Re: Lakes Nesting Bird Restrictions
February 13, 2022, 11:11:18 am
I've bouldered in the Lakes for years and this is the first I've heard of any nesting restrictions whatsoever, especially for bouldering. Thanks for highlighting!

There's a reason that half the Lakes is called Raven Crag  ;)

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#5 Re: Lakes Nesting Bird Restrictions
February 17, 2022, 01:24:52 pm
https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/crag_access/annual_lakes_restrictions_to_protect_nesting_ravens-744170?v=1#x9595843

Just seen this wrt the Wallowbarrow bouldering potentially not being included in the restriction, hopefully this will be cleared up.

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#6 Re: Lakes Nesting Bird Restrictions
February 17, 2022, 03:34:49 pm
Thought I'd put this on here as it might get missed on UKC, the Lakes bird restrictions are out for this year, listed at

https://www.frcc.co.uk/bird-restrictions/

I note that for boulderers, Wallowbarrow Gorge and Swarthbeck Gill (Colonel Hathi) are on the list. There also looks to be some restrictions to certain areas of St Bees.

Always assumed it was just the crag and not actually Hathi but maybe not?

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#7 Re: Lakes Nesting Bird Restrictions
February 17, 2022, 03:57:06 pm
Quote from: monkey boy
Always assumed it was just the crag and not actually Hathi but maybe not?

UKC page and RAD both mention the boulders, so looks like both? Not been so not sure how far beneath crag Hathi is. I remember with Gouther that the Khukri boulder was OK but not the Atom Smasher one.

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/swarthbeck_gill_ravens_crag_boulders-18148/#overview

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#8 Re: Lakes Nesting Bird Restrictions
February 17, 2022, 04:39:41 pm
Is stonestar just the crag, or the Boulder as well?

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#9 Re: Lakes Nesting Bird Restrictions
February 17, 2022, 05:05:12 pm
Iíve not been but are the boulders right near the crag? If so I would assume both, but would be worth checking with Lakes BMC rep.

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#10 Re: Lakes Nesting Bird Restrictions
February 17, 2022, 05:55:45 pm
Quote from: monkey boy
Always assumed it was just the crag and not actually Hathi but maybe not?

UKC page and RAD both mention the boulders, so looks like both? Not been so not sure how far beneath crag Hathi is. I remember with Gouther that the Khukri boulder was OK but not the Atom Smasher one.

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/swarthbeck_gill_ravens_crag_boulders-18148/#overview

CH is at the same level as the Ďcragí and less than 50m from the routes? Some of the other boulders are a fair bit lower down the hillside.

Anyhoos the UKC database says explicitly no climbing in the ghyll when the bird ban is in place. CH is int ghyll marra.

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#11 Re: Lakes Nesting Bird Restrictions
February 17, 2022, 06:22:11 pm
Iíve not been but are the boulders right near the crag? If so I would assume both, but would be worth checking with Lakes BMC rep.

Itís a fair bit down the hill, as I remember, but, given that itís a quiet spot, itís probably best to assume itís banned too, unless I learn otherwise. If other boulders at the base of crags are banned it would make sense that this one is too.

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#12 Re: Lakes Nesting Bird Restrictions
March 07, 2024, 08:35:56 am
Researching whether Gouther had bird restrictions this year (looks like not) but thought I would share the list for this year:

https://www.frcc.co.uk/bird-restrictions/


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#13 Re: Lakes Nesting Bird Restrictions
May 15, 2024, 10:40:03 am
Confirmation on the other channel that the Stonestar peregrine ban includes the boulders too https://www.thebmc.co.uk/modules/rad/view.aspx?id=7778

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#14 Re: Lakes Nesting Bird Restrictions
May 15, 2024, 01:19:55 pm
Thanks Tim. Should have posted here also. It was something I'd followed up at the bird restriction meeting in Feb and should have added to the RAD sooner.

 

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