[Bubba]

See here: http://www.btinternet.com/~paul.carvill/002.htm

Personally I think the C&F is a crap bike road, too slow with lots of 2nd gear corners, etc. The adjacent Long Hill road is much better..... probably be good on a 250/400 or something though...

[Paz]

From a student climber-minbus drivers point of view I was particularly impressed by
the Penrith-Alston A686:

http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?X=350000&Y=540000&width=500&height=300&client=public&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=gb&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&right.x=25&right.y=7&scale=200000

I like the C&F too but that's only from a boring car driving perspective,and you always get stuck behind some mutha.