[hongkongstuey]

Forget all that other rubbish - the finest guide on the planet will be available in about 8 days.

Checked the proofs last night - e mailed the final amendmants to the printers this morning - its off to production this afternoon and in 8 days time i'll have a new baby.........

A little excited now to say the least...

[SA Chris]

Thats a nice B and W pic dtu, i assube by the black spaces its the front cover. Do I get a signed copy? For photographic services over the years?

[hongkongstuey]

i assume by the black spaces its the front cover.

indeed it is - will send you a copy back when Grace is in the UK next (you can do a review for UKB...... :roll: )

[SA Chris]

You should have maybe pm'ed me that message, now everyone will want one!

[Fiend]

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Nice one Stuey, looks like you've got a lot of class stuff to document from the pictures you've posted on here. Nice cover too, not always a great fan of the sillouette things but I love the crazyiness of the HK cityscape.

Now all we need is a sample .pdf =)

[Bubba]

A fine effort Stu - you've pretty much put HK on the world bouldering map

[hongkongstuey]

A fine effort Stu - you've pretty much put HK on the world bouldering map

and still no bugger ever comes here..........

even though the weather is prime at the minute - hovering around 20 deg C, low humidity etc etc...

[Jim]

too warm that. currently about 2 or 3 degrees c, suns out. Bloody freezin and I'm off to the peak in about an hour. may have to go and get on all my nemesis'

[hongkongstuey]

Well its ready and will be available in the UK through beta climbing designs soon

a few sample pages to wet your appetites:

Front Cover:


Area Intro:


Crag Intro:


Crag Maps etc:


Topo's:

[Nigel]

That looks absolutely gorgeous - a real inspiration for lone operators who need to write a guide! Check this out Greg. Nice one.  

[Bonjoy]

Nice one Stu, that looks quality.

[Bubba]

Awesome work Stu !

[cofe]

is hong kong further south than cratcliffe? i'm confused - is it near Churnet?  :wink:

looks dope. i'll start saving now.

[Fiend]

Cofe - think it's somewhere on the coast near Dartmoor, that's why it's sunny.

Stuey - ditto to the above comments, very nice indeed. Big up.

[account_inactive]

Nice

[Palomides]

Area Intro:

Looks good

(But should it say "described briefly at the back of the book" or "described briefly in the back of the book" ??)

[Greg C]

Looks awesome and with a little ethnic flava!  :up:

Not that I want this to end up in yet another mindless grade debate (don't you believe it) but I see for the easier problems you have used a VB grade whats that stand for?

[Fiend]

V-Basic, I assume. Have also seen V-Easy and V-Moderate in use, in NZ I think.

This guide certainly is a good demonstration/lesson to anyone who might be in a prime bouldering area that hasn't been documented in print and is sitting on a load of topos...

[cofe]

too late man, they're already doing a peak guide:

check it

[SA Chris]

VB gets used stateside, as easier than V0- (as opposed to V0 and V0+) basicall extending the V system downwards, to cover easier problems.

[dave]

just imagine if there was a internationally recognised grade scale that went right down to easy stuff. I recon it'd be a winner.

[Pantontino]

Yeah Dave, you're damn right: an internationally recognised grading system that went right down to easy stuff, and that could cope with traverses and long problems, and even that grey area in between: medium length problems - imagine that. :shock:

I reckon that would be a winner too.

[Pantontino]

...but then again that would mean we'd have to change the 'internationally recognised grading system' to suit our own crags were you get a lot of traverses and traverse/up problem hybrids.

And we all know that you're not allowed to change other people's grading systems, don't we.

Oh well, back to the drawing board.

[dave]

And we all know that you're not allowed to change other people's grading systems, don't we.

aye, but if those said "other people" change it then its all good:@

I get the impression that font traverse grades will die out. They have never been used in the peak (Jerry's traverse 7c is as hard as any up 7cs) so I doubt they will be used in the new guide, otherwise Jerr's travers would need to be graded 8a which I'm sure it will not be (I'd hope!)

I spoke to Jacky Godoffe about this in font recently and he said that they are a dying breed even in font, and quoted Millenium, a traverse graded 7c+ in normal grades and not given a font traverse grade. He then pointed out that problems such as Dreamtime - arguably a traverse - were graded in normal font grades and not with the traverse derivative. If you check out bleau.info you will se that the grade voting is gradually bringing all the traverses into line with the up problems.

[Pantontino]

Now all we need is somebody to establish some reliable and credible benchmarks for the lower grades and bingo bongo, luvverly jubbly, jobs a good un.

Hasn't Dave Jingo wobbers just regraded all the easy stuff in Font for his new guide?

Or will Rupert's guide (potentially the biggest - by a very long mark - selling UK bouldering guide to date) set the standards by which all sub 7a Font grades will be judged. And will the rest of the country then fall dutifully into line behind the mighty Peak Scene and scrap that American nonsense forthwith? (Actually I think you know the answer to that already.)

(Apologies to HK Stuey for the Tommy Tangent hijack of this thread. Your guide looks like a real quality job - well done for what I'm sure was a load of hard work and hassle. I should've start a new thread, but Dave is leaving at 3.00, so I'd only be talking to myself (again).)