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#25 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 09, 2024, 06:44:08 pm
It must be really quite difficult to set for!

As long as you don't mind getting slagged off by Janja on insta for setting it too easy, I guess it's not really that different to setting as you otherwise would. You 'just' set to try and separate everyone else in the final and accept that Janja is gonna flash everything and take the win, and you get good separation to decide the 2nd to 6th.

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#26 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 09, 2024, 07:39:27 pm
Different year, same route setting challenges

It all comes back to what would generally be seen as "The Janja Issue": are they setting for the top competitor, or the 6th? There have been many finals now where Janja or Natalia has topped all the boulders with ease, and multiple other people have not even topped one. Seems like a pretty impossible task to me, especially if 2 of the super-crazy-strong women are in it and need splitting.
I fully agree that there are some routesetting issues with IFSC comps, especially women's comps, but I don't really have many ideas for how to set better when there is such a range in quality, even in just the final.

I think the route setters did a fairly respectable job this time out, good separation through the finalists - if that scorecard happened in the mens comp, we'd say it was about perfect. The only problem comes from the fact that it's the same person flashing every time, compared to mens where it might be someone different on form and winning week by week.

Hopefully the setters can handle the curveball of everyone doing semis tomorrow and adjust accordingly - I really don't envy that task. Similarly, getting a podium out of 20 finalists that doesn't mean loads of blank scorecards (I'd imagine the temptation would be to go too hard vs risking being too soft and not getting separation).

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#27 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 09, 2024, 07:41:04 pm
As long as you don't mind getting slagged off by Janja on insta for setting it too easy, I guess it's not really that different to setting as you otherwise would. You 'just' set to try and separate everyone else in the final and accept that Janja is gonna flash everything and take the win, and you get good separation to decide the 2nd to 6th.
You're probably right , and setting for Janja would possibly risk poor separation for places 2 to 6 but must feel a bit frustrating not to set problems to properly test probably the best comp climber there's ever been. 

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#28 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 09, 2024, 09:59:24 pm
Nobody, not even Janja could top W2.

That was in the semi final.  Out of 13 problems through the 3 rounds Janja did 12 of which 10 were flashed.  At a quick glance the next best was Luo with 8 tops and 5 flashes.  It must be really quite difficult to set for!
Yeah, sorry hadn't seen the final at that point... freakin' monster.

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#29 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 10, 2024, 09:21:29 am
Three brits in the mens semi/final hybrid later. Max, Dayan and Toby.

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#30 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 10, 2024, 10:12:47 am
Great performances!

Discovery+ only seems to have the last 52 mins of the morning session, anyone else just seeing that? It means none of the Brits are shown :/

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#31 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 10, 2024, 12:29:39 pm
Great performances!

Discovery+ only seems to have the last 52 mins of the morning session, anyone else just seeing that? It means none of the Brits are shown :/
Nope, can't get it either.

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#32 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 10, 2024, 08:07:39 pm

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#33 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 10, 2024, 08:08:45 pm

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#34 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 12, 2024, 08:21:19 am
Another good qualifying round for GB, looks like Toby, Max, Molly and Erin are all through to semis.

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#35 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 13, 2024, 09:50:38 am
Looks like Max is in the Final, with 5 to climb and barring appeals.
The jamming seemed to help...

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#36 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 13, 2024, 10:07:47 am
Looks like Erin is going to make the final as well, impressive!

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#37 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 13, 2024, 10:19:07 am
Toby joins them!

Good effort by Molly too, not far off

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#38 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 13, 2024, 10:28:09 am
Apologies for the ignorant question but what comp is happening now? I watched the Keqiao men's and women's bouldering, but sounds like another has followed hot on its heels?

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#39 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 13, 2024, 11:25:12 am
Yeah they've had a couple days off and then gone straight into lead in Wujiang. Lead season normally begins much later but I think it's been done like this for the OQS athletes to get a comp of each discipline in before that series (there's Wujiang speed on now too)

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#40 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 13, 2024, 12:39:27 pm
Nice one, thanks

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#41 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 14, 2024, 09:07:19 am
Anyone know when the last time there were three brits in finals for a world cup was? I can't remember any but maybe back to the early 90s?

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#42 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 14, 2024, 01:33:04 pm
What time is the finals live?

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#43 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 14, 2024, 01:45:33 pm
Right now dude, think it started 1230

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#44 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 14, 2024, 01:58:19 pm
Ah balls. Hopefully I can put it back to the start.

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#45 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 17, 2024, 01:36:18 pm
Anyone know when the last time there were three brits in finals for a world cup was? I can't remember any but maybe back to the early 90s?

Leeds 1989, Jerry, Simon Nadin, Skinny Vinnie and Leachy

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#46 Re: IFSC comps 2024
April 18, 2024, 09:06:50 am

Leeds 1989, Jerry, Simon Nadin, Skinny Vinnie and Leachy

Blimey, I thought there must have been one since then. Pretty momentous and could easily have happened at both Kequiao and Wujiang.

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#47 Re: IFSC comps 2024
May 07, 2024, 10:39:35 am
Really enjoyed the SLC World Cup, especially the Women's. Lucy Garlick holding her own with the likes of Jessica Pilz was really impressive.
Sometimes I quite like a comp without Janja, not so much a foregone conclusion..... though even a one -legged Natalia
looked unstoppable...

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#48 Re: IFSC comps 2024
May 07, 2024, 11:20:19 am
I wasn’t a fan of the one legged jumps which appeared in both men’s and women’s. They looked kind of cool when they stuck the move but I’m amazed no one was injured!

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#49 Re: IFSC comps 2024
May 07, 2024, 12:16:52 pm
The one legged jump on the mens was not the intended beta, but as only 1 athlete really tried it the intended way, then it ended up looking quite dangerous. The intended way 180 rotation was definitely the easiest method.

 

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