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Instinct LE
November 22, 2023, 07:18:20 pm
Apparently this shoe is sick but there's only going to be a thousand pairs.

Is it just me or is that actually just really quite shitty? Like proper contrived scarcity?

Thoughts from the scattered neurons of the UKB mind please

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#1 Re: Instinct LE
November 22, 2023, 07:45:05 pm
They're making them because people will buy them. At the end of the day Scarpa are a business that is trying to make money, if you've got time to do a run of shoes that you can sell for an inflated cost why wouldn't you ?

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#2 Re: Instinct LE
November 22, 2023, 08:33:20 pm
From what I've been told, BananaFingers approached Scarpa to make them a limited set. So it's exclusive to BF, and their marketing ploy.

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#3 Re: Instinct LE
November 22, 2023, 09:01:31 pm
It's just an Instinct Slipper with "marketing fairy dust". No thanks.

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#4 Re: Instinct LE
November 22, 2023, 09:02:51 pm
Sounds as appealing to me as a Moncler collab  :wank:

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#5 Re: Instinct LE
November 22, 2023, 09:12:29 pm
sell for an inflated cost

Yes agree, it's absolutely disgusting. That extra £0.96 going into their grubby little corporate pockets is all the evidence I need of their sinful greed.

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#6 Re: Instinct LE
November 22, 2023, 09:17:18 pm
Looks just like the slipper, with the old place up (parrot coloured) toe, in black. Its absence in my quiver probably isn't the reason I fall off things, but you never know.

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#7 Re: Instinct LE
November 22, 2023, 09:31:41 pm
It's just an Instinct Slipper with "marketing fairy dust". No thanks.

They look quite different in shape to the new instinct slippers, particularly the toe box, looks to be a close replica of the much beloved old orange ones

Links for comparison

https://bananafingers.co.uk/scarpa-instinct-le

https://bananafingers.co.uk/scarpa-instinct-s-1




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#8 Re: Instinct LE
November 22, 2023, 10:16:39 pm
I’m gonna buy two pairs now to annoy all the grumpy farts on here

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#9 Re: Instinct LE
November 22, 2023, 10:24:56 pm
2013… the Instinct Slipper is Carlisle Slappers favourite board shoe, perfect for all the slippy wood domes and for falling off The Rail. But being a wise man, Dan knew that the shoe’s time was limited. What to do?

He’d always been good at projecting. Time for the best one yet.

Young Aidan Roberts had been looking hot on the comps and was perfectly placed for having an inside man at Scarpa. All that was necessary was to steer him into the path of greatness, and therefore influence. What could be greater than domination of the Lakes rat crimp projects? Dan rubbed his hands gleefully, before knocking out another 100kg 3 finger drag hang. Even McLeod couldn’t pull off something this audacious.

In a Scarpa design team meeting a mere decade later, the new lord of the crimps is on his knees in front of Heinz Mariacher, pressing his Friction Labs stained hands together in prayer.

“Please Heinz. I’ll do anything. I NEED those slippers for my new project, ‘Burden of Awkward Silence’. There has to be a way!”

Heinz relents, raising Aidan’s trembling chin with the fresh edge of an Instinct Lace.

“There will be a shoe, boy. I see… A limited run. Yes, that will work well. But what colour…?”

Aidan swallows, trying not to sound too eager. “How about… all black?”

Heinz furrows his brow, then nods. “Yes… I like it! Black it is. We’ll keep it to a thousand pairs. That’s almost enough to get Ondra through a week-long slab project.”

Aidan nods gratefully and retreats, his heart pounding as he fantasises telling his master about his success. After a mere two weeks of hitchhiking in only electric vehicles, he arrives in the hallowed ground of the Lakes.

He finds his master crouching sombrely amongst the Kentmere boulders, gazing upon the 8mm flakes of Shadowplay. Faint chalk marks are still visible, from when Bosi fondled the holds and declared them useable. Sacrilege. Only the G could use such holds.

His master speaks, without turning.

“Is it done?”

“It’s done. A thousand pairs. All in black.”

Dan smiles, a leer of yellowed teeth rotten from too many flapjacks consumed amongst the cursed rocks  of Christianbury whilst plotting his scheme.

“At last. It returns. I always had faith. The G provides.”

He lets out a long sigh. “My great work is complete. You are no longer my apprentice. Go. Climb trad, as you always wished.”

Dan didn’t turn to watch his ex-apprentice slip away amongst the ferns, though he heard the clank as the boy started to rack hexes on his harness.

Instead he stared once more upon the holds of Shadowplay, so small and sharp that they could cut through reality itself, warping the past, present and future. He spoke into the void, his words rippling between the chalk into somewhere else, somewhere where it was always 5am and power was limitless.

“Have I pleased you, lord?”

The void stayed silent, as always. The G never spoke back. But inside his mind, a vision rippled. A tall leaning prow, perfectly positioned amongst the Lake District fells. Holds dotted the line, which was just about possible to highball, if you were willing to risk everything. Dan gasped at the beauty. He knew he had been rewarded.

“Thank you, my lord!”

The perfect shoe, and the perfect line. The G provided. He always had.






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#10 Re: Instinct LE
November 23, 2023, 06:40:41 am
looks to be a close replica of the much beloved old orange ones

Links for comparison

Aye, fair cop. Quite liked the old slipper...

I'd heard the might do a similar small run of Gen1 Boostics.

Mischa - love it.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2023, 07:09:04 am by Fultonius »

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#11 Re: Instinct LE
November 23, 2023, 10:22:05 am
High quality shitposting

2013… the Instinct Slipper is Carlisle Slappers favourite board shoe, perfect for all the slippy wood domes and for falling off The Rail. But being a wise man, Dan knew that the shoe’s time was limited. What to do?

He’d always been good at projecting. Time for the best one yet.

Young Aidan Roberts had been looking hot on the comps and was perfectly placed for having an inside man at Scarpa. All that was necessary was to steer him into the path of greatness, and therefore influence. What could be greater than domination of the Lakes rat crimp projects? Dan rubbed his hands gleefully, before knocking out another 100kg 3 finger drag hang. Even McLeod couldn’t pull off something this audacious.

In a Scarpa design team meeting a mere decade later, the new lord of the crimps is on his knees in front of Heinz Mariacher, pressing his Friction Labs stained hands together in prayer.

“Please Heinz. I’ll do anything. I NEED those slippers for my new project, ‘Burden of Awkward Silence’. There has to be a way!”

Heinz relents, raising Aidan’s trembling chin with the fresh edge of an Instinct Lace.

“There will be a shoe, boy. I see… A limited run. Yes, that will work well. But what colour…?”

Aidan swallows, trying not to sound too eager. “How about… all black?”

Heinz furrows his brow, then nods. “Yes… I like it! Black it is. We’ll keep it to a thousand pairs. That’s almost enough to get Ondra through a week-long slab project.”

Aidan nods gratefully and retreats, his heart pounding as he fantasises telling his master about his success. After a mere two weeks of hitchhiking in only electric vehicles, he arrives in the hallowed ground of the Lakes.

He finds his master crouching sombrely amongst the Kentmere boulders, gazing upon the 8mm flakes of Shadowplay. Faint chalk marks are still visible, from when Bosi fondled the holds and declared them useable. Sacrilege. Only the G could use such holds.

His master speaks, without turning.

“Is it done?”

“It’s done. A thousand pairs. All in black.”

Dan smiles, a leer of yellowed teeth rotten from too many flapjacks consumed amongst the cursed rocks  of Christianbury whilst plotting his scheme.

“At last. It returns. I always had faith. The G provides.”

He lets out a long sigh. “My great work is complete. You are no longer my apprentice. Go. Climb trad, as you always wished.”

Dan didn’t turn to watch his ex-apprentice slip away amongst the ferns, though he heard the clank as the boy started to rack hexes on his harness.

Instead he stared once more upon the holds of Shadowplay, so small and sharp that they could cut through reality itself, warping the past, present and future. He spoke into the void, his words rippling between the chalk into somewhere else, somewhere where it was always 5am and power was limitless.

“Have I pleased you, lord?”

The void stayed silent, as always. The G never spoke back. But inside his mind, a vision rippled. A tall leaning prow, perfectly positioned amongst the Lake District fells. Holds dotted the line, which was just about possible to highball, if you were willing to risk everything. Dan gasped at the beauty. He knew he had been rewarded.

“Thank you, my lord!”

The perfect shoe, and the perfect line. The G provided. He always had.

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#12 Re: Instinct LE
November 23, 2023, 10:47:34 am
Any idea how many Scarpa produce in a typical run of a specialist shoe, in other words how limited is 1000?

It looks like a New Zealand version of the old orange Instinct S, adding another layer of something on the toe under the rubber T. The description mentions a 3/4 length plastic insert rather than 1/2 length in the current S. Does this fit with it being a refreshed orange? Reviving an old model makes a lot more sense than building something completely new and fits with the new/old Boostic rumours. Perhaps they are seeing how this one goes before committing to the latter?

Misha  :2thumbsup:

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#13 Re: Instinct LE
November 23, 2023, 11:05:31 am
They're making them because people will buy them. At the end of the day Scarpa are a business that is trying to make money, if you've got time to do a run of shoes that you can sell for an inflated cost why wouldn't you ?

Sure I can appreciate that, but also surely as consumers we're allowed to discuss the actions of companies in the climbing industry and if we think they're acting in a negative way, say so?

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#14 Re: Instinct LE
November 23, 2023, 11:17:33 am
Is this the start of limited edition / signature edition / colab climbing shoes like the trainer market? Will a pair of these in "box fresh" condition be worth a fortune.

Slightly OT, but I saw a guy getting climbing instruction at our local wall, wearing what looked like a brand new pair of Boreal Aces. Felt like seeing a pristine classic car on the road, driven by a teenager.

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#15 Re: Instinct LE
November 23, 2023, 11:20:53 am
Given these are the same price as a normal pair of scarpas I don't really see what the issue is? I'd even go the other way: it's kinda cool if it lets them try out some ideas that might be too risky to make it in to the main line up.

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#16 Re: Instinct LE
November 23, 2023, 11:22:49 am
They want us (consumers) to have a ‘conversation’.

Echoes of the Adidas Adios Pro Evo 1 $500 super shoe release. A marathon racer that apparently lasts one or two races, which they limited the availability of. Stick it on some pros and supply the odd Influencer. Bingo!

The difference being this is cheaper than a standard Instinct S.

Or maybe it’s just a massive on-line retailer wondering how they can compete with Scarpa’s direct sales.

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#17 Re: Instinct LE
November 23, 2023, 01:29:02 pm
Is this the start of limited edition / signature edition / colab climbing shoes like the trainer market?
Not really the start, more the latest in a long line.

There's been limited edition Miuras, Shamans, and probably plenty of others that I've forgotten, that were collaborations with famous climbers.

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#18 Re: Instinct LE
November 23, 2023, 02:00:10 pm
High quality shitposting

2013… the Instinct Slipper is Carlisle Slappers favourite board shoe, perfect for all the slippy wood domes and for falling off The Rail. But being a wise man, Dan knew that the shoe’s time was limited. What to do?

He’d always been good at projecting. Time for the best one yet.

Young Aidan Roberts had been looking hot on the comps and was perfectly placed for having an inside man at Scarpa. All that was necessary was to steer him into the path of greatness, and therefore influence. What could be greater than domination of the Lakes rat crimp projects? Dan rubbed his hands gleefully, before knocking out another 100kg 3 finger drag hang. Even McLeod couldn’t pull off something this audacious.

In a Scarpa design team meeting a mere decade later, the new lord of the crimps is on his knees in front of Heinz Mariacher, pressing his Friction Labs stained hands together in prayer.

“Please Heinz. I’ll do anything. I NEED those slippers for my new project, ‘Burden of Awkward Silence’. There has to be a way!”

Heinz relents, raising Aidan’s trembling chin with the fresh edge of an Instinct Lace.

“There will be a shoe, boy. I see… A limited run. Yes, that will work well. But what colour…?”

Aidan swallows, trying not to sound too eager. “How about… all black?”

Heinz furrows his brow, then nods. “Yes… I like it! Black it is. We’ll keep it to a thousand pairs. That’s almost enough to get Ondra through a week-long slab project.”

Aidan nods gratefully and retreats, his heart pounding as he fantasises telling his master about his success. After a mere two weeks of hitchhiking in only electric vehicles, he arrives in the hallowed ground of the Lakes.

He finds his master crouching sombrely amongst the Kentmere boulders, gazing upon the 8mm flakes of Shadowplay. Faint chalk marks are still visible, from when Bosi fondled the holds and declared them useable. Sacrilege. Only the G could use such holds.

His master speaks, without turning.

“Is it done?”

“It’s done. A thousand pairs. All in black.”

Dan smiles, a leer of yellowed teeth rotten from too many flapjacks consumed amongst the cursed rocks  of Christianbury whilst plotting his scheme.

“At last. It returns. I always had faith. The G provides.”

He lets out a long sigh. “My great work is complete. You are no longer my apprentice. Go. Climb trad, as you always wished.”

Dan didn’t turn to watch his ex-apprentice slip away amongst the ferns, though he heard the clank as the boy started to rack hexes on his harness.

Instead he stared once more upon the holds of Shadowplay, so small and sharp that they could cut through reality itself, warping the past, present and future. He spoke into the void, his words rippling between the chalk into somewhere else, somewhere where it was always 5am and power was limitless.

“Have I pleased you, lord?”

The void stayed silent, as always. The G never spoke back. But inside his mind, a vision rippled. A tall leaning prow, perfectly positioned amongst the Lake District fells. Holds dotted the line, which was just about possible to highball, if you were willing to risk everything. Dan gasped at the beauty. He knew he had been rewarded.

“Thank you, my lord!”

The perfect shoe, and the perfect line. The G provided. He always had.

All roads lead to G  :great:

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#19 Re: Instinct LE
November 23, 2023, 02:09:44 pm
Is this the start of limited edition / signature edition / colab climbing shoes like the trainer market?
Not really the start, more the latest in a long line.

There's been limited edition Miuras, Shamans, and probably plenty of others that I've forgotten, that were collaborations with famous climbers.

Have they been in that limited numbers though?

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#20 Re: Instinct LE
November 23, 2023, 02:17:52 pm
They're making them because people will buy them. At the end of the day Scarpa are a business that is trying to make money, if you've got time to do a run of shoes that you can sell for an inflated cost why wouldn't you ?

Sure I can appreciate that, but also surely as consumers we're allowed to discuss the actions of companies in the climbing industry and if we think they're acting in a negative way, say so?

Absolutely.

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#21 Re: Instinct LE
November 23, 2023, 02:40:15 pm
Its not the first time. Sportiva did the Ondra edition Miuras a few years back which combined the best bits of both the velcro and lace version, people loved them and then they stopped making them. I don't really see why its a negative though, its just a marketing stunt ultimately. Why does contrived scarcity matter?

I suppose I'm wondering why its morally any worse than eg. Gu running a delicious special edition cheesecake which I can sadly no longer buy.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2023, 02:59:54 pm by spidermonkey09 »

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#22 Re: Instinct LE
November 23, 2023, 04:12:01 pm
Is it a good tactic though? Surely scarpa would make more money if they produced eg 2000 pairs? Do they think they wouldn't be able to sell them all at that price?

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#23 Re: Instinct LE
November 23, 2023, 04:21:01 pm
I don't really see why its a negative though, its just a marketing stunt ultimately. Why does contrived scarcity matter?

If that's in response to me, where did I say it was a bad thing? Compared tp fashion trainers it's a pretty niche market.

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#24 Re: Instinct LE
November 23, 2023, 04:36:54 pm
Its not, its to the OP.

 

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