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#25 Re: Re: Significant First Ascents
September 21, 2023, 11:16:24 am
I'm praying he goes for Too Hard For Adam Ondra

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#26 Re: Re: Significant First Ascents
September 21, 2023, 12:03:49 pm
It's an 'extension' of 'Kakestykket' (Piece of cake). So "Piece of cake extension" if he's shopping around for really crappy names.

Otherwise I think that the equipper should name the route. They are the first ascensionists after all, even if they don't do it in free.

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#27 Re: Re: Significant First Ascents
September 21, 2023, 12:44:50 pm
Otherwise I think that the equipper should name the route. They are the first ascensionists after all, even if they don't do it in free.

A French friend was baffled by how in the UK we don't have that naming prerogative for the equipper but do consider the equipper has "closed project" rights (which apparently isn't the case in France). I wonder whether the French way is better than ours and (say) a couple of years ought to be viewed as an absolute max for closed project status with naming as a consolation prize.

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#28 Re: Re: Significant First Ascents
September 21, 2023, 01:14:58 pm
Personally I'd go with "Too much cake for Ondra"

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#29 Re: Re: Significant First Ascents
September 21, 2023, 01:54:16 pm
Cakewalk. He made it look easy.

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#30 Re: Re: Significant First Ascents
September 21, 2023, 02:25:33 pm
Otherwise I think that the equipper should name the route. They are the first ascensionists after all, even if they don't do it in free.

A French friend was baffled by how in the UK we don't have that naming prerogative for the equipper but do consider the equipper has "closed project" rights (which apparently isn't the case in France). I wonder whether the French way is better than ours and (say) a couple of years ought to be viewed as an absolute max for closed project status with naming as a consolation prize.

Isn't there a big difference between how French/British routes are equipped and ultimately who pays for that?

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#31 Re: Re: Significant First Ascents
September 21, 2023, 07:43:29 pm

Isn't there a big difference between how French/British routes are equipped and ultimately who pays for that?

In France, the equipment is often payed for by the equipper or a local club or usually a combination of the two. They then try to recover the cost by making low-cost topos sold at relative high mark-up.

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#32 Re: Re: Significant First Ascents
September 21, 2023, 07:54:38 pm
Great! I cannot be the only one who wish for a better name for the route than Project Big.
Is that what it's settled as? Hmm. It would be nice to have a nod to Adam's vision and efforts there. Something like "Cacaphony" or "White Noise" or "Whispers"??

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#33 Re: Re: Significant First Ascents
September 21, 2023, 07:57:00 pm
Doesn't make sense to call it Project Big cos its not a chuffin Project now is it, he did it

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#34 Re: Re: Significant First Ascents
September 21, 2023, 07:57:54 pm
'Kakestykket' (Piece of cake).
I heard the meaning was more "piece of the cake" as it was the first line they did and saw that there was a lot more cake. I also don't think "piece of cake" is actually and expression in Scandinavian?
The FA was in fact done on gear.

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#35 Re: Re: Significant First Ascents
September 21, 2023, 08:04:07 pm
Great! I cannot be the only one who wish for a better name for the route than Project Big.
Is that what it's settled as? Hmm. It would be nice to have a nod to Adam's vision and efforts there. Something like "Cacaphony" or "White Noise" or "Whispers"??

No he's said he's going to give it a different name.

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#36 Re: Re: Significant First Ascents
September 22, 2023, 11:10:00 am
I also don't think "piece of cake" is actually and expression in Scandinavian?

In the 90s in northern Sweden we most definitely used 'kakbit' as an ironic calque of 'piece of cake' instead of the established Swedish loan translation 'munsbit' (from French amuse-bouche). How they spoke in Trondelag at that time, I would not know.

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#38 Re: Re: Significant First Ascents
September 27, 2023, 09:33:12 pm
Great! I cannot be the only one who wish for a better name for the route than Project Big.

Do you think he will follow Ondra's single word style (Change, Move, Silence etc) and just call it Big? Or maybe Groß? I hope not.

Called it!

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#39 Re: Big News
September 27, 2023, 10:07:45 pm
B.I.G 9c

After the K-Pop Band presumably  Boys In Groove - B.I.G https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.I.G_(band)

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#40 Re: Big News
September 28, 2023, 06:45:48 am
Given Jakob's liking of good old hip-hop, I'd rather assume it to be a nod to The Notorious B.I.G. -- but who knows.

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#41 Re: Big News
September 28, 2023, 08:04:47 am
I'd like to hope so.

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#42 Re: Big News
September 28, 2023, 09:34:08 am
 :agree: It's an acceptable name. And okay grade.

Also mods please rename thread to to B.I.G. News  ;D
« Last Edit: September 28, 2023, 09:39:52 am by Fiend »

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#43 Re: Big News
September 28, 2023, 10:23:52 am

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#44 Re: Big News
September 28, 2023, 01:35:31 pm
Have you ever read any of Niky Ceria’s IG posts? His written English is outstandingly good.

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#45 Re: Big News
September 28, 2023, 02:18:41 pm
It would be nice to have a nod to Adam's vision and efforts there. Something like "Cacaphony" ??

If that's not a typo it's a great name but hardly a nod of respect!

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#46 Re: Big News
September 28, 2023, 05:53:59 pm
Sorry JB it's a misspelling because I am a moron, in my defence I think it was lockdown that turned me dyslexic as a trauma response (better than believing in 5g-activated-gender-eradicating-chemtrails as a trauma response at least).

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#47 Re: Big News
September 28, 2023, 08:35:53 pm
Ondra's written a good post about the grade (can also write well in English):

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cxvax5ft-F7/

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#48 Re: Big News
September 28, 2023, 10:08:55 pm
Compared to some of the post "send" claptrap posted by some native English speakers, they all write pretty well.

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#49 Re: Big News
September 29, 2023, 09:51:43 am
Megos makes some pretty good English gags in the Jam Crack I listened to. Humourless Teutons.

 

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