Get something you like or you wont use it.
Quote from: James Malloch on July 26, 2023, 02:49:53 pmGet something you like or you wont use it.If picking something you like more (even if it's for a "superficial" reason like thinking it looks cooler) makes you more likely to wear it, then it's worth it.
Crazy to think how much harder I'd redpoint if I didn't wear a helmet that weighed 0.3% of my bodyweight (before considering rope drag, clothes, harness, whether I've had a pre-climb piss/shit).Edit: might as well complete the sermon.NSFW same shit I've written on here 100 times before: I've seen people that would describe themselves as experienced and good sport climbers (>8a RPers) fall off stuff with the rope behind their leg. If they didn't manage to whip their leg over the rope mid fall (it was a long fall) their head would have exploded as it hit the wall below them. Someone stood at the bottom of a trade route at Kilnsey got brained by falling rock and was stretchered off the crag. Kilnsey in general is a choss pit.When you consider that you don't even have to be unlucky to get a brain injury from a knock to the head, and that brain injuries can/will completely fuck you up, maybe even kill you in the sense that your body survives but your personality is completely and irreversibly changed, I maintain that it is an extraordinary act of self delusion to not wear a helmet while sport climbing/belaying.
I do not use a helmet when doing single pitch routes on solid rock and have never seen any reason to.
On the positive side, I never fall badly at the second draw because I have preclipped the rope into whichever is the highest draw I can reach extended on my tippy toes with my 7 m long stick clip.
Quote from: jwi on July 28, 2023, 12:24:57 pmOn the positive side, I never fall badly at the second draw because I have preclipped the rope into whichever is the highest draw I can reach extended on my tippy toes with my 7 m long stick clip.Indeed , possibly the biggest safety move you make in sport climbing is using your stick clip. I have no interest in hitting the ground while.sport climbing , helmet or no helmet, it's hard!
Don't want to argue too much against the case for helmets - given how light they are now it feels there is a good argument for them, despite the fact that I don't bother.However I don't feel hyperbole about risking life / brain damage is warranted either. The fact is very few people die sport climbing (I can't think of any recent UK ones) and serious accidents involving ground falls could involve many injuries where helmets are irrelevant. Obviously Toby's accident was significant, but still rare enough to be noteworthy years later and (if my understanding is correct) while wearing a helmet probably would have helped , stick clipping the first bolt would have helped even more, something I've been doing on that route for 20 years+.Probably wearing a helmet would reduce my injury risk slightly while sport climbing but then again so might wearing one while walking home after a heavy night on the town (though that risk has been mitigated by getting old and boring).
If only Mina had thought to clipstick the draw above the Rainshadow crux before falling off Ian, all the examples I mentioned are from the last few years. To only count deaths ignores the long list of other grim stuff that can befall you.
Last winter I fell off at the 3rd bolt of a bolted mixed route and my crampon point went into my belayer's head. He wasn't wearing his helmet. The metal spike through the head seems not to have affected his personality at all...
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