Quote from: Carliios on August 18, 2022, 01:47:36 pmI will point out that Singing in the Wind isn't actually an easier sequence, I sandbagged that one quite a lot on purpose.Why? You seem to be get pretty upset that people have a different opinion of your problems to you but you admit to mis-grading and mis-attributing stars. Regarding what constitutes a classic, there are no rules other than ‘it is not dictated by the first ascensionist’.
I will point out that Singing in the Wind isn't actually an easier sequence, I sandbagged that one quite a lot on purpose.
What’s the rational for awarding stars ?
I have not and will not be voting on any of these problems that I haven't climbed, but I'm finding the already amusing excess of the 400 Bin Votes is being amplified by the number of times it keeps being mentioned
Quote from: andy moles on August 18, 2022, 05:41:39 pmI have not and will not be voting on any of these problems that I haven't climbed, but I'm finding the already amusing excess of the 400 Bin Votes is being amplified by the number of times it keeps being mentioned One of the many rules of the internet: if you mention something you don't like, people will go out of their way to do it more for a bit of a laugh.
Right succint yet incredibly vague
When I started bouldering which would be around 1973, problems were all about the difficulty and considered rights of passage. No body considered quality, it was more about people would deem you worth talking to if you had done certain problems. This was mainly an Almscliff experience but other Yorkshire crags counted abit.
Quote from: webbo on August 18, 2022, 06:05:36 pmWhen I started bouldering which would be around 1973, problems were all about the difficulty and considered rights of passage. No body considered quality, it was more about people would deem you worth talking to if you had done certain problems. This was mainly an Almscliff experience but other Yorkshire crags counted abit.I'm pretty sure Tim Palmer only really started talking to me after he saw me do Dialectics on DWR.
the rules{ as stated in the Boulder Scotland guidebook } that the "Ring Cycle" of the caldera was a NON documented area where you took away the experience of the place above the need to top,tick,grade and move on
Quote from: scragrock on August 19, 2022, 08:35:45 am the rules{ as stated in the Boulder Scotland guidebook } that the "Ring Cycle" of the caldera was a NON documented area where you took away the experience of the place above the need to top,tick,grade and move onWhile I'm sympathetic to the sentiment, and it's nice to think of some fringe places being left undocumented, I doubt the provenance and authority of such a 'rule', which I suspect is nothing more than the guidebook author's (or a very small cadre of people's) whim. I mean, you could claim anywhere should be a non-documented area, it's funny how being printed in one man's book gives an opinion more sway than if it was, say, a post on this forum.To be fair, in my copy of Bouldering in Scotland it isn't made to sound like a 'rule', it rather gives the impression that no one has bothered to write it up (which is understandable given how dispersed the bouldering there must be).Like you say, it's hard to imagine how to enforce such an ideal (if enforcing is what you really want to do?), because it only takes one person to break from it and the genie's out.
You would need to carefully and widely document why to not document it.OT, but I still need to get there for some climbing, only ever sea kayaked around there and it rained, so no climbing.
In anticipation of the film that will no doubt follow this thread, I have taken the liberty of mocking up a poster.
