Really? The entire first paragraph is devoted to talking about how much better pads have got. Reads like sour grapes to me
Saw a video of a cuddly community Dr once called Harold Shipman, had a comforting fluffy beard and everything. Looked a lovely chap.
Quote from: abarro81 on May 17, 2022, 11:11:17 pmReally? The entire first paragraph is devoted to talking about how much better pads have got. Reads like sour grapes to meGiven that the title of the piece is “Lomba's 9b knee pad technique and leg strength story” that seems reasonable
Quote from: shark on May 18, 2022, 07:51:07 amQuote from: abarro81 on May 17, 2022, 11:11:17 pmReally? The entire first paragraph is devoted to talking about how much better pads have got. Reads like sour grapes to meGiven that the title of the piece is “Lomba's 9b knee pad technique and leg strength story” that seems reasonable The title will be from Jens
Seems like it's just about how you read Steve's comments I didn't read it as him having a go at anyone or dismissing the kneebar tech. It's obviously not a straightforward knee and requires significant skill + training to make it work.
I didn't read it as him having a go at anyone or dismissing the kneebar tech.
Quote from: remus on May 18, 2022, 10:02:22 amSeems like it's just about how you read Steve's comments I didn't read it as him having a go at anyone or dismissing the kneebar tech. It's obviously not a straightforward knee and requires significant skill + training to make it work.Yeah, likewise. And doesn't sound like it warrants a downgrade either based on Eder's explanation; it's just a different way of doing it. You either; a) develop your anaerobic capacity in the forearms as per Steve; or,b) develop your leg and toe strength to use the knee bar as per Eder.One isn't necessarily easier than the other.
Quote from: Bradders on May 18, 2022, 10:09:22 amQuote from: remus on May 18, 2022, 10:02:22 amSeems like it's just about how you read Steve's comments I didn't read it as him having a go at anyone or dismissing the kneebar tech. It's obviously not a straightforward knee and requires significant skill + training to make it work.Yeah, likewise. And doesn't sound like it warrants a downgrade either based on Eder's explanation; it's just a different way of doing it. You either; a) develop your anaerobic capacity in the forearms as per Steve; or,b) develop your leg and toe strength to use the knee bar as per Eder.One isn't necessarily easier than the other.This is interesting isn't it? People have been doing the former for decades but I've never heard of anyone going to quite the lengths that Eder has to train knees. Perhaps they have, just never set it out publicly.It's likely that kneebarring is still in its emergent stage. Perhaps Eder's kneebarring seems like "9b standard" to us primitives, but will be seen as more lowly in the future as people get better and better at hanging off their legs.
Ondra is the other notable example, for the kneebars on Silence. Sure he said something like initially he couldn't use them, and eventually got up to taking hands off for c. 4 mins!
This is interesting isn't it? People have been doing the former for decades but I've never heard of anyone going to quite the lengths that Eder has to train knees. Perhaps they have, just never set it out publicly.It's likely that kneebarring is still in its emergent stage. Perhaps Eder's kneebarring seems like "9b standard" to us primitives, but will be seen as more lowly in the future as people get better and better at hanging off their legs.
I’m assuming Barrows has also spent a lot of time hanging upside down with his knees stuffed behind a campus board!
Don't think I've ever heard anyone grumble about kneeBARS on existing routes. KneePADS certainly.