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#200 Re: Bosiwad
December 08, 2022, 10:57:10 am
8C now I thought, didn't it break a bit hence going back up to the original grade?

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#201 Re: Bosiwad
December 08, 2022, 10:59:11 am
Ahhaaaaa, I see. I suspect it was also being harshly graded back in the day when people thought 8C didn't exist!

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#202 Re: Bosiwad
December 08, 2022, 11:16:17 am
Absolutely ridonkulous from Bosi!  :strongbench:

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#203 Re: Bosiwad
December 08, 2022, 11:20:50 am
The Dagger flash is pretty incredible, especially given comments like these

Dave Graham: "CrazYYY"
Daniel Woods: "3 days of war"
Carlo Traversi: "3rd day... Crazy and hard"

Always amazes me when people flash things that take other top climbers a significant amount of effort. Obviously there are huge factors like late repeats having more beta than FA/early repeats, and people having specialised styles, etc, but it's still a pretty incredible piece of climbing.

An alterative angle... multiple people saying soft 8B+, or even 8B. That's numberwang!

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#204 Re: Bosiwad
December 08, 2022, 04:14:24 pm

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#205 Re: Bosiwad
December 08, 2022, 04:44:46 pm
I haven't seen much of Will climbing in that style (burly compression, heels), but he's clearly no slouch!

Excited to see what else he does if this is part of a longer trip. Has he even had time to get any training in since the previous visit? It feels only 2 minutes since he waltzed up Alphane!

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#206 Re: Bosiwad
December 08, 2022, 04:57:49 pm
An alterative angle... multiple people saying soft 8B+, or even 8B.

Including Will from that video

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#207 Re: Bosiwad
December 08, 2022, 05:54:36 pm
It’s safe to say that British bouldering is in a strong place. The amount of people operating at the top end and very top end is mind boggling.

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#208 Re: Bosiwad
December 08, 2022, 06:15:07 pm
It’s safe to say that British bouldering is in a strong place. The amount of people operating at the top end and very top end is mind boggling.

I agree with your overall point, but I think it's worth bearing in mind there's quite a big gap between Will, Aidan (and maybe some of the comp climbing youth when they decide to touch some rock) and the rest of the UK pack. Will and Aidan have done (quite a few!) more problems above 8C than every other British person combined.

https://climbing-history.org/list/3/strong-british-male-boulderers

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#209 Re: Bosiwad
December 08, 2022, 06:22:29 pm
I think there is a bit of a gap between will and Aidan too. Definitely if you count routes.

Realised you specifically said boulderers but even than my money would go on Will.

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#210 Re: Bosiwad
December 08, 2022, 06:35:52 pm
I think there is a bit of a gap between will and Aidan too. Definitely if you count routes.


Well yeah there’s definitely a gap if you include something one of them doesn’t do 😂

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#211 Re: Bosiwad
December 08, 2022, 06:50:32 pm
Should get his arse into gear then.


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#212 Re: Bosiwad
December 08, 2022, 08:12:27 pm

Putting the lower / less showy grade in the big caption is worth waddage in itself  :strongbench:

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#213 Re: Bosiwad
December 08, 2022, 09:28:16 pm
It’s safe to say that British bouldering is in a strong place. The amount of people operating at the top end and very top end is mind boggling.

I agree with your overall point, but I think it's worth bearing in mind there's quite a big gap between Will, Aidan (and maybe some of the comp climbing youth when they decide to touch some rock) and the rest of the UK pack. Will and Aidan have done (quite a few!) more problems above 8C than every other British person combined.

https://climbing-history.org/list/3/strong-british-male-boulderers

I don't think there's a big gap between Will and Aidan although Will is definitely better at flashing boulders. I think Aidan maybe undersells himself by sandbagging a lot of his hardest ascents, hardly any of his FA's ever seem to get repeated, even the ones abroad where there's a lot more people climbing in the 8B+ to 8C range.

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#214 Re: Bosiwad
December 09, 2022, 09:04:01 am
It’s safe to say that British bouldering is in a strong place. The amount of people operating at the top end and very top end is mind boggling.

I agree with your overall point, but I think it's worth bearing in mind there's quite a big gap between Will, Aidan (and maybe some of the comp climbing youth when they decide to touch some rock) and the rest of the UK pack. Will and Aidan have done (quite a few!) more problems above 8C than every other British person combined.

https://climbing-history.org/list/3/strong-british-male-boulderers

I don't think there's a big gap between Will and Aidan although Will is definitely better at flashing boulders. I think Aidan maybe undersells himself by sandbagging a lot of his hardest ascents, hardly any of his FA's ever seem to get repeated, even the ones abroad where there's a lot more people climbing in the 8B+ to 8C range.

The spectre of the G still reaching down through the generations?  ;)

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#215 Re: Bosiwad
December 09, 2022, 09:49:10 am

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#216 Re: Bosiwad
December 12, 2022, 05:05:09 pm
Flash Flood Flash (8B)

According to IG (can't link from work).

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#217 Re: Bosiwad
December 12, 2022, 05:22:26 pm
During the last six weeks, Will has flashed seven boulders 8A to 8B (+) as well as redpointed nine boulders 8A to 9A.

Unstoppable!

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#218 Re: Bosiwad
February 09, 2023, 09:11:26 pm

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#219 Re: Bosiwad
February 09, 2023, 10:02:26 pm
He's gotta be one of the best all rounders at this point surely?

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#220 Re: Bosiwad
February 09, 2023, 11:17:27 pm
He's gotta be one of the best all rounders at this point surely?

What's he done on the Ben in winter? Absolutely nothing and he's Scottish too. Punter

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#221 Re: Bosiwad
February 10, 2023, 08:57:14 am
Haha good tongue in cheek point made.

Will is really really good (obvs) and obvs very good at bouldering and sport climbing but is he an all rounder?

Dave Mac is the most obvious top all-rounder for me; 9a sport, 8B+ (is practice of the wild 8C?) Hardest trad head points in the country, probably also o/sed the odd E7, grade XII winter stuff + has done some hard multipitch stuff.

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#222 Re: Bosiwad
February 10, 2023, 09:00:22 am
8B+ Flash, IN A DOWN JACKET!!!

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#223 Re: Bosiwad
February 10, 2023, 09:12:19 am
Haha good tongue in cheek point made.

Will is really really good (obvs) and obvs very good at bouldering and sport climbing but is he an all rounder?

Dave Mac is the most obvious top all-rounder for me; 9a sport, 8B+ (is practice of the wild 8C?) Hardest trad head points in the country, probably also o/sed the odd E7, grade XII winter stuff + has done some hard multipitch stuff.

It's clearly Ondra for me. Sport, boulder, comp, crack and trad all at much higher levels than Dave, even if he hasn't climbed XII on the Ben... yet! 

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#224 Re: Bosiwad
February 10, 2023, 09:22:20 am
Haha good tongue in cheek point made.

Will is really really good (obvs) and obvs very good at bouldering and sport climbing but is he an all rounder?

Dave Mac is the most obvious top all-rounder for me; 9a sport, 8B+ (is practice of the wild 8C?) Hardest trad head points in the country, probably also o/sed the odd E7, grade XII winter stuff + has done some hard multipitch stuff.

It's clearly Ondra for me. Sport, boulder, comp, crack and trad all at much higher levels than Dave, even if he hasn't climbed XII on the Ben... yet!

At the risk of descending into UKC style debate....I guess it depends on how you define hardest trad?  Do you more heavily weight difficulty over danger?  DMac has clearly done some of the hardest bold/serious trad in the world, whereas Ondra waltzed up the hardest big wall in world (but it's fairly safe).  Dave doesn't travel much, but I do wonder how he'd get on on something like the dawn wall. I was actually mega impressed Adam managed it with so little fuss - just goes to show what a few grades in hand does for you!

 

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