[Bonjoy]

Also what actually counts as a move?

What counts as the same hold? Is either end of the same pocket/ledge/break okay, so long as no bit of your hand touches a bit already used? So you could mono either side of a two finger pocket on the two problems to maintain the flash?
Isn't gritstone all one hold? Ergo you only get one flash attempt per lifetime.
I think Bosi is smoking crack.

[crimpinainteasy]

Will's recent performance only makes me wonder even more about the grade of mutation.   

[Paul B]

I think Bosi is smoking crack.

Perhaps but the result is 'the critics' saying he's being far too strict rather than any hint of a shadow over what he's done (which I'll repeat again, is fucking incredible)?

[jwi]

what he's done (which I'll repeat again, is fucking incredible)?

I struggle to recall if there has been anything like his one month ticklist from the Brno in the last few years, and must admit that I draw a complete blank.

Judging from the comments on his instagram he has tried a lot of really hard stuff that he did not do as well, so the volume of climbing has been staggering.

[lukeyboy]

Agreed, I can't think of anything comparable. Particularly when you consider that he's gone to an area with a very specific style which most people would take a while to adapt to (well perhaps less so if you've basically ticked the tor, but still). It would be far less surprising, though still v impressive, to do this sort of thing in Rocklands, Swizzy etc

[grimer]

I interviewed Will. Apologies in advance

[lukeyboy]

I interviewed Will. Apologies in advance

Thanks for that Niall

[teestub]

It would be far less surprising, though still v impressive, to do this sort of thing in Rocklands, Swizzy etc

I think if he’d gone to Switzerland and done a similar amount of high 8’s, people wouldn’t be discussing what did or didn’t constitute a flash, because the aesthetic quality of the problems is so much higher there, and as a punter I would find that way more inspiring.

I guess it would be like the difference between someone going and doing all the hard problems at Impossible Roof, or going and doing all Dan V’s hard problems in the County.

[Wellsy]

In all fairness we did all verbally cream our panties at the sight of the Bosinator's huge throbbing girthy ticklist before arguing over what is or isn't a flash

[edshakey]

Expressions of awe - often repetitive in a boring way
Debate about the fine points of ethics - often repetitive but in an more entertaining way

Let's not kid ourselves, it's the main reason we're all here

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It would be far less surprising, though still v impressive, to do this sort of thing in Rocklands, Swizzy etc

I think if he’d gone to Switzerland and done a similar amount of high 8’s, people wouldn’t be discussing what did or didn’t constitute a flash, because the aesthetic quality of the problems is so much higher there, and as a punter I would find that way more inspiring.

I guess it would be like the difference between someone going and doing all the hard problems at Impossible Roof, or going and doing all Dan V’s hard problems in the County.

Agreed, and I believe it would have created more impact worldwide had he gone and done 6 8C's in Switzerland. Though I dont doubt he's capable, as I expect Ondra's grades aren't soft!

Speaking of #swizzy, all has been quiet on the Aidanwad front for a while. Hopefully there's another girthy ticklist coming soon!

[Bonjoy]

I disagree. I’m impressed with Will’s ticklist for the pure (Ondra certified) difficulty, and the chutzpah of the guy going out to Ondra’s home crag and testing himself against these things. I’d be no more or less impressed if these were proud soaring overhung aretes. The aesthetics are irrelevant to the achievement in this case. You can’t go out and test yourself against Ondra AND climb the ultimate kinglines of the world on the same trip. You do the Ondra trip and then you do the kinglines trip. Respect to Will for doing the unobvious (even if he is smoking crack on the flash definition front).

[Bonjoy]

PS

[abarro81]

You can’t go out and test yourself against Ondra AND climb the ultimate kinglines of the world on the same trip.

Given that Ondra has FAd many great lines, and tested himself against many others, I wouldn't agree with this... though I guess maybe I'm thinking routes and you're thinking boulders?

[Bonjoy]

Yes, bouldering.

[Bonjoy]

Would be great to see Will try himself against Ondra's Flatanger routes. That would be another level of impressive and demonstrate proper breadth of ability across styles.

[Wellsy]

Doing all the hardest problems, none of which have any appreciable line or indeed are recognisable from more than five feet away, at the local chossy seeping limestone shitheap, is perversely glorious. And going to the local chossy seeping limestone shitheap of arguably the best climber in the world is even more so.

[Duma]

Would be great to see Will try himself against Ondra's Flatanger routes. That would be another level of impressive and demonstrate proper breadth of ability across styles.

He mentions how hard he found Ondra's (local) routes briefly in Niall's chat above - interesting how it was the level of stamina he seemed most blown away by when training with AO

[crimpinainteasy]

[peterbeal]

 

[Fiend]

Good stuff, looks even grottier than Ondra's local chossheaps 

[remus]

Looks like WIll's nabbed the second ascent of Silent Singer 8C, Aidan Robert's recent addition to the bowderstone.

[Aussiegav]

Is Will still in the Lattice stable or does he have new coaching set up?

[remus]

Is Will still in the Lattice stable or does he have new coaching set up?

Yeah he's Lattice.

[edshakey]

Second ascent of Outliers 8C.