the shizzle > get involved: access, environment, BMC
Potential Anston Stones access issue
teestub:
--- Quote from: Bradders on April 20, 2022, 08:31:06 pm ---
The local Parish Council have been trying to pull this for years. I'm assuming it's the same thing. IIRC the woods are owned by Natural England, who have always been totally fine with climbing there.
For some reason the Council aren't, and have repeatedly put up signs saying climbing is banned, when they have absolutely no right to take any such action.
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Parish claim ownership on their site
https://www.anston.gov.uk/land-and-property.html
And the Woodland Trust notes it to be ‘A (sic) Anston Parish Council Wood
https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/visiting-woods/woods/anston-stones-wood/
🤷
danm:
I had a quick look at the SSSI schedule which suggests the sign is probably using the SSSI designation inaccurately to try and ban climbing. The reason for the wood being a SSSI is because of its value as a limestone woodland, so I can't see anything that would make bouldering an issue as it doesn't cause damage to the features leading to the SSSI designation, unless for example, there has been illegal tree or vegetation clearance done by boulderers.
Regardless of who the landowners are, with a SSSI you need Natural England's permission to allow any activities which are listed under the schedule. As boulderers are not asking to do an activity which is listed, this permission is not needed and I think the sign is wrong. Still, best to be discrete and avoid confrontation.
Maybe worth giving Jon Fullwood or Rob Dyer a ping about it as well?
Ru:
Even if the council do own the land, their most recent management plan (Oct '21) as published on the council website, recommends liaising with climbers and encouraging responsible enjoyment.
https://www.anston.gov.uk/uploads/management-plan-review-approved-oct-2021.pdf
Bradders:
--- Quote from: teestub on April 20, 2022, 09:34:16 pm ---
--- Quote from: Bradders on April 20, 2022, 08:31:06 pm ---
The local Parish Council have been trying to pull this for years. I'm assuming it's the same thing. IIRC the woods are owned by Natural England, who have always been totally fine with climbing there.
For some reason the Council aren't, and have repeatedly put up signs saying climbing is banned, when they have absolutely no right to take any such action.
--- End quote ---
Parish claim ownership on their site
https://www.anston.gov.uk/land-and-property.html
And the Woodland Trust notes it to be ‘A (sic) Anston Parish Council Wood
https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/visiting-woods/woods/anston-stones-wood/
🤷
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Ah fair enough, I was just going on the previous thread. Perhaps it's always been owned by the council and the bit about Natural England's permission is a general misunderstanding of the rules for an SSSI as Dan says then?
Will Hunt:
I think that sign has been up for a long time and is now just ignored?
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