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#150 Re: Climbers recovering from covid
May 28, 2024, 05:18:29 pm
Got my first ever positive test today (3 days before dadís funeral - NNFNÖ).

Whatís the general advice these days, just rest up and donít overdo things when things start improving?

And how long would one likely be infectious - is a negative test enough to risk mixing with high risk family?

Iím feeling medium rough with shivers and everything aching so will probably just have some lemsip for now.

Iím guessing the fact I never hear anything about it now means itís basically just part of lifeÖ

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#151 Re: Climbers recovering from covid
May 28, 2024, 05:44:09 pm
Sorry to hear this James. Regarding infectiousness of COVID, a general rule of thumb is: you are potentially infectious while you have symptoms. Infectiousness can vary from person to person. Many people will no longer be infectious after 5 days, some will be infectious for up to 10 days (source: NHS guidance).

Edit: was skimming and missed the follow-up Q.

The relationship between antigen test positivity and COVID-19 infectiousness is complicated. But a negative antigen test (provided it isn't falsely negative) would mean you are less likely to be contagious as the antigen will be below detection in your upper airway.
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#152 Re: Climbers recovering from covid
May 28, 2024, 09:09:26 pm
Difficult situation James, sorry to hear that. If it were me, I think I'd try to mix with family outside as much as possible and obviously let them know you're currently testing positive, but given the importance of the day there's only so much you can do. It's another thing to think about when you already have a lot on. Hope you feel better soon and you give your dad a good send off.

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#153 Re: Climbers recovering from covid
May 29, 2024, 12:09:43 am
Perhaps worth letting everyone know the score as some people may have underlying health conditions that youíre unaware of. Outside is a good idea, Iíd strongly recommend avoiding hugging and close contact but appreciate that is crap advice for a funeral.

For yourself, yes do take it easy for a bit afterwards. The chances of it turning into the extended version are about one in ten, maybe a little less, so not negligible and worth avoiding.

Hope the day goes as well as can be expected. Get well soon!

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#154 Re: Climbers recovering from covid
May 29, 2024, 09:16:36 am
That's tough. I have always (well, twice) waited until it feels like my heartrate is back to normal before thinking about any strenuous exercise.

Hope the day goes OK.

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#155 Re: Climbers recovering from covid
May 29, 2024, 11:36:31 am
Another thought - if you think thereís a chance youíre still infectious maybe wear a mask.

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#156 Re: Climbers recovering from covid
May 29, 2024, 01:06:26 pm
Yeah, I'd definitely consider masking up if you're going to be indoors with people while you might still be infectious. Then do as much outdoors as possible.

Though obviously as Sean says it's all miserable advice for a funeral.

Perhaps worth letting everyone know the score as some people may have underlying health conditions that youíre unaware of.

This. Let other people know so they can decide what risks to take.

I hope it all goes okay but remember that the most important thing is the time you spent with your dad before his death. Sounds like he got to live his last days absolutely on his own terms, and nothing can take that away. Even if the funeral can't be 100% perfect, there will be other chances to commemorate his life.

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#157 Re: Climbers recovering from covid
May 29, 2024, 01:35:35 pm
Thanks for all the responses. If Iím testing negative by Friday Iíd go, but fully masked and away from everyone at the ceremony.

I think if I am still testing positive then I might just watch the live stream (or hang in the doorway of the chapel if that is an option). Or maybe even go after everyone has left to say a final goodbye. There are too many relatives there who have their own illnesses whom I would hate to infect.

It would be sad to miss it, but at the same time I got to say my goodbyes in private to him before and after he died. I wrote a mini Eulogy of everything I wanted him to know and made sure he knew it whilst he was around too.

Iíve been thinking for a while that I feel like Iíve already had my own ceremony for him, and that the real one is more for everyone else who didnít get to see him, or were there throughout without the space to process (my step mum).

Letís see what the next few days bringÖ

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#158 Re: Climbers recovering from covid
May 29, 2024, 01:48:33 pm

So sorry to hear that James, super tough, but sounds like your dealing with the situation well and postively, which is good.  Well done   :thumbsup:.

I had two 'covid' funerals, mother in law's, which me and my two sons had to miss and watch on a very glitchy live stream.  And one where we held the ceremony around the grave site, outdoors which, thanks to some kind weather, was as good as sitting in a church/crem whatever.  Fingers crossed the weather is fine for you too.

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#159 Re: Climbers recovering from covid
May 29, 2024, 02:05:48 pm

So sorry to hear that James, super tough, but sounds like your dealing with the situation well and postively, which is good.  Well done   :thumbsup:.


Cheers! Canít let something like this get you down!

We also had a few covid funerals. One step parent which we couldnít make due to international travel rules, and my grandmotherís which was to do with numbers allowed.

For the former we went and had a little ceremony at the same time somewhere close to home. It was pretty nice really as we now have somewhere to go and sit and remember them.

Iím sure Iíll do the same on Friday if I canít make it. Iíve got the beers that my dad got in for our last night together (he was too unwell to drink by that point) so sitting out on the moors somewhere with a beer would be a nice alternative.

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#160 Re: Climbers recovering from covid
June 03, 2024, 10:33:20 pm
As an update to this, we went and sat at the back with a mask on for the ceremony. Afterwards everyone came over and said they didnít care about covid and fully expected me to come for a beer at the wake. A few people kept their distance but were happy for me to come still. I hadnít really realised that basically no one tests  or even thinks about it anymore.

I had a really lovely time hearing lots of old stories and reconnecting with family Iíd not seen for 10-15 years. Hoping to keep in touch as Iíd forgotten how nice they all are.

Still got the beer ready for Fatherís Day. Also still testing positive 8 days on, but symptoms have essentially gone now at least. Though I donít think Iíd cope with any real exercise at this point. Definitely in need of some more rest/recovery.

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#161 Re: Climbers recovering from covid
June 04, 2024, 03:46:00 pm
Really glad it went so well!

I hadnít really realised that basically no one tests  or even thinks about it anymore.

Some people do, but it definitely skews towards people who are immunocompromised or have conditions liable to be worsened by Covid (or who've already got long Covid), or people who know lots of people in the former group.

Honestly, we're in a slightly weird place right now where Covid has been substantially defanged by the vaccines, but (last I checked) it's still about twice as likely to hospitalize you as flu is, and it's still causing long Covid (albeit at a much lower rate, and, according to clinical anecdata, maybe less severely).

So it's not "just a cold" yet, or even "just flu". But the picture's so different I can understand why a lot of people have gone for the cognitive simplicity of "pretend it doesn't exist any more".

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#162 Re: Climbers recovering from covid
June 04, 2024, 04:41:28 pm
As I said at the time, I was surprised to be testing positive last July after flying back from Luton after 10 days down south. In spite of being fully vaccinated it definitely hit me a lot worse than it in April the year before.

Glad the day went as well as it could James. Make sure you are feeling OK before you start doing anything again. I kept track of effort using the HRM on my watch to track effort, and made sure it stayed low. Even the slightest effort had it spiking at first.

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#163 Re: Climbers recovering from covid
June 04, 2024, 07:15:05 pm
Really glad it went so well!

I hadnít really realised that basically no one tests  or even thinks about it anymore.

Some people do, but it definitely skews towards people who are immunocompromised or have conditions liable to be worsened by Covid (or who've already got long Covid), or people who know lots of people in the former group.

Honestly, we're in a slightly weird place right now where Covid has been substantially defanged by the vaccines, but (last I checked) it's still about twice as likely to hospitalize you as flu is, and it's still causing long Covid (albeit at a much lower rate, and, according to clinical anecdata, maybe less severely).

So it's not "just a cold" yet, or even "just flu". But the picture's so different I can understand why a lot of people have gone for the cognitive simplicity of "pretend it doesn't exist any more".

Iím definitely still in the cautious group. My friend is a headteacher and she doesnít know anyone whoís tested positive in her school, despite it definitely going around. I would still avoid someone if I knew they were positive.

Itís day 10 for me tomorrow and Iím going to start going in places again (even if still positive). The guidance seems to be that if youíve actually tested, just get back to normal after 5 days (or 10 if seeing immunocompromised people) and donít bother waiting for a negative test.

The studies I read suggested that (on older variants) the chances of being contagious after 10 days is super low. Iíve been taking the dog out and some friends have stopped to say hello - they havenít been bothered about it when warned. But it seems right to try and avoid infecting anyone if possible - even if Iím struggling with not going to my local cafe for a week!

Iím very cautious about long covid too. Will have to charge my Garmin up again an keep an eye on my HR. Cheers, Chris.

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#164 Re: Climbers recovering from covid
June 04, 2024, 08:47:26 pm
To put the risks to someone who has covid-related issues already into perspective, the last time I had it I was really unwell for about six weeks. So people being not very cautious* about covid can put quite the dent in my life, plus any increase in long term risks or damage as a result of extra infections. People do get long covid and then worsen after a subsequent infection. Which given worsen can mean ďspending 24 hours a day in bed in a dark room, mostly in painĒ makes me nervous around thoughtless people with coughs.


* For avoidance of doubt, everyone on this thread atm is being cautious! This is a general issue not finger pointing here.

 

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