[SA Chris]

Good stuff, seems like you have timed it well, first sessions at the Findon Fin for the year have started...

[Falling Down]

It’s back to normal now Chris. Both times it lasted 3-6 months before calming down to pre-Covid levels.  I ended up going to a specialist the first time who gave my ears a good clean which helped.

[SA Chris]

Good to know.

Of interest, did you have any tinnitus before? I've got some; a result of, I expect, artillery fire and nightclubs with crap sound systems.

[fatneck]

I'm 10 days in (mid 40s, double vaxxed, boosted and not had it before) and feeling much better though still testing positive. Had one bad night's sleep after an afternoon of generally feeling weird, tested + the following morning and then had three days in bed feeling pretty rough but have improved steadily since then. Managed half an hour at the wall last night with no ill effects but it's not ideal preparation for a week in Font next week! Yellow circuits here we come!

I do suffer from occasional (and seemingly undiagnosable) boughts of fatigue every couple of years that sound very similar to Sean, Ben and other's symptoms where I am literally incapable of doing much other than sleep. These episodes usually last 2-4 weeks and I have to be very careful in returning to normal activity. The symptoms of tiredness and lethargy are usually accompanied with and preceded by swollen glands similar to Glandular fever though blood tests say it categorically not this.

My concern is that Covid will have some kind of affect on these episodes... Will keep yous posted.

Good luck to everyone struggling with this - it all still feels remarkably surreal!

[Mike Highbury]

Managed half an hour at the wall last night with no ill effects but it's not ideal preparation for a week in Font next week!

At the wall?

[shurt]

Tragically I'm in the club after trying incredibly hard to avoid it. I've been quite anxious about getting it as had 4 years of ME/CFS quite recently.

I'm about 5 days in and almost feeling better. What a strange illness. It's been like a greatest hits of all the shittest symptoms of cold or flu one after the other but rarely at the same time, don't know if other people have found this? Crushing headache, all over body ache like flu, couldn't sleep, shivers and fever, sore throat with rasping cough, runny nose and sneezing, joint pain. I've had a loss of taste too but am almost feeling human now. Will see how the next few weeks go fatigue wise, I have quite a physical job and as the the main earner I need to get back to work as, being self employed, have taken quite a hit this last week. Thanks Boris and Rishi.

Anyway, hope everyone out there is alright.

[seankenny]

Sorry to read about so many people getting sick and I hope everyone makes a speedy recovery. For those that don’t, I have gathered lots of info on how to deal with/recovery from the long lasting illness. But… I am too tired to post it! 

Will try to get it together sometime soon…

[Falling Down]

Good to know.

Of interest, did you have any tinnitus before? I've got some; a result of, I expect, artillery fire and nightclubs with crap sound systems.

Yep I had it before, no artillery for me but I’m sure standing next to drummers whilst playing bass for years without plugs and then loud gigs/DJing/headphones and surfers ear will have caused it.

[Falling Down]

Get well soon Chris, Fatneck, Shurt and Sean..

[SA Chris]

Good to know.

Of interest, did you have any tinnitus before? I've got some; a result of, I expect, artillery fire and nightclubs with crap sound systems.

Yep I had it before, no artillery for me but I’m sure standing next to drummers whilst playing bass for years without plugs and then loud gigs/DJing/headphones and surfers ear will have caused it.

I guessed that might be the case!

[lagerstarfish]

I tested positive today.

My wife tested +ve a couple of days ago, so I've been expecting it. I have been deliberately taking it easy. I got short of breath walking uphill yesterday and have had a couple of weak moments today.

My lungs took a bit of a hammering in 2002 and 2003 with pneumonia followed by chicken pox and have not been the same since.

Let's see what happens.

[SA Chris]

My pulse rate has been back to normal as of end of last week, still got continuous snotty nose and tinnitus is still pretty bad. Hope you ride it out OK Lagers, and everyone else. If you are concerned about lungs get a finger clip oxymeter, easy way of checking levels.

[Duma]

Fingers crossed it's mild for you lagers

[seankenny]

Also wishing you well Rob.

For anyone who’s recovering from covid - you really don’t want to be me! So at the risk of being repetitive, take as much rest as you need and maybe a little more on top. This is not something to try pushing through.

[lagerstarfish]

If you are concerned about lungs get a finger clip oxymeter, easy way of checking levels.

We bought one last year

[SA Chris]

Thought you might, but worth mentioning in case.

[abarro81]

Anyone who's had it twice got any insights on how they found recovery from round 2 vs round 1? So far the infection seems to have been broadly similar but with all symptoms being a bit more subdued than the first time... I'm assuming that means recovery will be similar or a little faster (which for me means probably allowing 4 weeks or so to build back up to full activity) but wondering if anyone has any anecdotes to relay?

[Fultonius]

Anyone who's had it twice got any insights on how they found recovery from round 2 vs round 1? So far the infection seems to have been broadly similar but with all symptoms being a bit more subdued than the first time... I'm assuming that means recovery will be similar or a little faster (which for me means probably allowing 4 weeks or so to build back up to full activity) but wondering if anyone has any anecdotes to relay?

My second time I onsighted at my hardest sport grade two days after I'd recovered, and had much less ongoing fatigue and malaise....  But it really depends I guess...

[seankenny]

If anyone is unfortunate enough to have long covid and wants to know whether and how it is possible to return to training then this talk by Oonagh Cousins is very good. She is on the GB rowing team and has been very sick with long covid but has made a good recovery, to the point of being back racing now. She has posted on facebook in a private group ("long covid for endurance athletes", worth checking out if you're sick and can brave the Zuckerberg Monstrosity) but this is the first thing I've seen publicly and in the same depth. She is apparently even better now than she was when filming this talk.



Another thing worth checking out is this link on autonomic problems in long covid, this isn't everyone but if you have these symptoms then Dr Putrino has also got a pre-print paper with a rehab protocol (see supplementary documents in the second link).

https://twitter.com/PutrinoLab/status/1525172494709182464?s=20&t=KVFklFHKZUCATGU5nq5KmQ

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-440909/v1

Post exertional malaise is an absolutely fucking horrible experience, hopefully this advice is useful. As always a disclaimer - I'm not a medical professional, take internet advice from randoms at your own risk etc.

[SA Chris]

tinnitus is still pretty bad.

Not improved keeping me awake most nights.

[seankenny]

Really sorry to read this Chris - sounds very grim.

[jwi]

I tested positive on a lateral flow test a few days after my OH tested positive and was in bed for four days and a bit with a fever between 37 and 38.5 (and a brief peak at 39) on my thermometer (I am usually at 36 or lower). A few days later I went out walking to the pharmacy, and another pharmacy since the first one had siesta and had to go to bed again from exhaustion afterwards.

A few days later I did a very light fingerboard session which worked ok, so two days later I did some harder fingerboarding and a bit of campusing and got big bruises on all my fingertips. This might be because of some molecular changes in the capillaries due to the virus (see https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30937-5/ ). Certainly people are reporting issues in their feet and hands.

I tested positive (PCR) the next day, which was twelve days after onset of symptoms and ten days after having first tested positive on a home testing kit.

I have since slowly started to train more, prioritising short sessions of fingerboard or campusing for increased snappiness (RFD).

Today I did my first session of roped climbing some three weeks after onset. This whole thing pretty much sucks. Better to avoid infection imho.

[SA Chris]

Really sorry to read this Chris - sounds very grim.

Forgot to say thanks to this, in the grand scheme of things, compared to what you are going through it's pretty minor.

I do think it's now dropping off slightly now, although that could just be me filtering it out.

[petejh]

Sorry to hear that jwi. It definitely sucks, I'm in a similar position after getting covid over three weeks ago on a climbing trip to Inishmore. Out of a group of 10, 8 of us got ill. Spent a day and a half in a tent feeling really ill, then dragged myself through a few days of new-route bolting and climbing while feeling completely knackered, probably unwisely. Was still testing positive at the start of this week, 2.5 weeks later. Have a cough and feel knackered and have experienced the 'brain fog' thing, sleeping lots every night. Can certainly understand how shit it would be to have this sort of fatigue long term. Hope it improves for Sean and anyone else suffering.

[seankenny]

Shit Pete, that sucks, sorry to hear you are ill. Hope those symptoms lift soon.