Must have missed the write up of this. Franco given up on H grades then?
I did think that, but given it's by a private logger, it seemed plausible. Didn't notice the date though, certainly doubt it was done this morning, and logged immediately!Shame
Is Franco basing his E11 grade on all those E10's he's repeated around the country...
Quote from: edshakey on December 27, 2021, 10:35:13 amI did think that, but given it's by a private logger, it seemed plausible. Didn't notice the date though, certainly doubt it was done this morning, and logged immediately!Shame Deleted now surprise surprise!
Not saying you're wrong about your implication there Andy, but to flip it round surely all the stuff Franco has done in the North York Moors also needs to get some attention from the wealth of people who'd surely be capable? Only way we'll find out for sure whether these things are accurate is if others go and repeat them.
Quote from: Bradders on December 27, 2021, 12:02:28 pmNot saying you're wrong about your implication there Andy, but to flip it round surely all the stuff Franco has done in the North York Moors also needs to get some attention from the wealth of people who'd surely be capable? Only way we'll find out for sure whether these things are accurate is if others go and repeat them.Some of his stuff has had attention. Tom Randall thought Myxomop was the real deal and didn't repeat; Dan Varian has decked off Nothing Lasts and hasn't been back (I believe. Happy to be corrected).
https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/climbing/franco-cookson-immortal-maidens-bluff-uk.htmlHere's an article, not on insta but I'm guessing most of the article comes from a post on there.
According to Cookson, the result is a line that is "as physically hard as any of the safe outcrop E10 Trad routes in the UK, but with obvious far bigger consequences if you fail."
Tom Randall thought Myxomop was the real deal and didn't repeat
I couldn't give a toss either way, and I may be wrong, but I always take "outcrop routes" to mean stuff on sandstone and gritsone crags. So for that, I guess read shorter lived difficulties, but often tenuous and bolder, rather than long, hard and sustained as on big sea cliffs and mountain crags.So I guess the question is,what are all of the safe outcrop e10's in the country, and which ones is Franco basing his grade against? Off the top of my head, equilibrium, parthian without the flake, hard cheese,
So I guess the question is,what are all of the safe outcrop e10's in the country
He may be a tech and crimp master.