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Tomorrow is looking poor for Yorkshire and the Peak. 100% humidity and foggy in most places. Anywhere likely to be dry? Grit or lime considered

[Will Hunt]

It's been inversiony today. Perhaps the same tomorrow. Not sure where the fog might reach to but I'd aim high.

[Wellsy]

I've got someone looking at Anston to see how dry it is now, I'll let people know what they say

[edshakey]

It's been inversiony today. Perhaps the same tomorrow. Not sure where the fog might reach to but I'd aim high.

Almscliff high enough? I was imagining it should escape most of the mist

[Bonjoy]

It's been inversiony today. Perhaps the same tomorrow. Not sure where the fog might reach to but I'd aim high.

Forecasts are for mist and fog even on highest summits in the Peak on both days. Humidity levels are showing as quite a bit lower at higher altitudes than low, so you never know. It's a long slog up to Kinder/Grinah to find out though!

[Bonjoy]

There is a patch of clear skies predicted in the NW. Might be dry round the Chew. Still fairly high humidity forecast, but it hasn't rained for a few days, so might okay.

[Will Hunt]

It's been inversiony today. Perhaps the same tomorrow. Not sure where the fog might reach to but I'd aim high.

Forecasts are for mist and fog even on highest summits in the Peak on both days. Humidity levels are showing as quite a bit lower at higher altitudes than low, so you never know. It's a long slog up to Kinder/Grinah to find out though!

Where are you getting your info from? I was waiting for MWIS but not updated yet. The highest grit crags in Yorkshire are at about 450m (Almscliff is at a lowly 200m). MWIS doesn't seem to mention the fog level but obviously they're geared to looking at hill tops around the 5/600m mark.

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Is Crookrise sufficiently high? There's plenty i'd like to try up there but it's a 4 hour round trip including the walk in!

Is lime completely out in this weather or might the fabled 'sticky damp' occur?

[Will Hunt]

Is Crookrise sufficiently high? There's plenty i'd like to try up there but it's a 4 hour round trip including the walk in!

Is lime completely out in this weather or might the fabled 'sticky damp' occur?

You can check this stuff out on Bing Maps using the Ordnance Survey overlay. Boulders at Crookrise sit between the 350m and 380m mark. But what little wind there might be tomorrow is from the east so the bottom of the crag will be still. Combined with the trees under the crag I wouldn't have thought it would be any good there. I was thinking of Wolfrey (450m) but doesn't seem to be much psyche out there.

Still keen to hear from Bonjoy as the MWIS forecast from Thursday says of Saturday: "hills likely clear through the day, but above a canopy of low level valley fog that will linger much of the day".

[Fiend]

There is a patch of clear skies predicted in the NW. Might be dry round the Chew. Still fairly high humidity forecast, but it hasn't rained for a few days, so might okay.
Dry and sunny in Manc today after a frosty start, lots of puddles in the area have downsized a lot during this week. M62 cams might offer good hints tomorrow esp around Jn 22.

[remus]

Can't imagine it'll be a surprise to anyone, but I nipped out this eve and eastern peak grit was very damp. It'd be a very long shot this weekend.

Roche abbey might be ok, beef buttress in particular can be fairly weather proof. Not immune from condensation though.

[Will Hunt]

I think Footwork went to Roche last weekend and it was fucked.

[remus]

I think Footwork went to Roche last weekend and it was fucked.

Could be good again by now, yesterday was pretty sunny over that way (and Roche gets the sun). Haven't been though so all speculation.

[Bonjoy]

It's been inversiony today. Perhaps the same tomorrow. Not sure where the fog might reach to but I'd aim high.

Forecasts are for mist and fog even on highest summits in the Peak on both days. Humidity levels are showing as quite a bit lower at higher altitudes than low, so you never know. It's a long slog up to Kinder/Grinah to find out though!

Where are you getting your info from? I was waiting for MWIS but not updated yet. The highest grit crags in Yorkshire are at about 450m (Almscliff is at a lowly 200m). MWIS doesn't seem to mention the fog level but obviously they're geared to looking at hill tops around the 5/600m mark.

Metoffice. But I was looking at the Peak area only. It did look like there were more clear patches further north.

[andy moles]

If you can hack the drive, North Wales is going to be nice (for a change).

[J_duds]

It's damp and foggy in North Leeds at the moment. 

Just see a comment on ukc saying the Peak is wet too: https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/rock_talk/peak_conditions_today-742233

[moose]

It's damp and foggy in North Leeds at the moment. 

Just see a comment on ukc saying the Peak is wet too: https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/rock_talk/peak_conditions_today-742233

Dark, foggy, and damp in Ilkley - so if altitude is the answer, you'll have to go higher than Ilkley Moor.  It might clear up later (it did yesterday), but there is very little breeze to dispel the clag.

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I'm currently considering Stoupe Brow, but it's a fairly long drive from Leeds to turn around and come home!

[spidermonkey09]

Currently mint in Greater Manchester so was surprised to read it was clagged in elsewhere. You might be OK at Earl or similar?

[spidermonkey09]

Currently mint in Greater Manchester so was surprised to read it was clagged in elsewhere. You might be OK at Scout or Scout Hut ?

[NaoB]

North Wales is beautiful today, was great conditions at Elephantitus yesterday too.

[Will Hunt]

Just driven through a lot of clag to find Grimwith car park on the very cusp of it. If you're not above 400m I think you'd be fucked. Not sure about NYM, Silverdale etc

[Bonjoy]

I don't know. It's odd conditions. I think certain things will be bone dry, e.g. roofs, crag bottom bits, especially under overhangs. Anything with a topout or any green on it is probably a write off if you aren't out of the clag. Good day for Hueco Wall at Cratcliffe?
Stoney Middleton could be in great nick if you can stomach it.

[Paul B]

Currently mint in Greater Manchester so was surprised to read it was clagged in elsewhere. You might be OK at Scout or Scout Hut ?

Maybe later on but I couldn't see the end of to garden until about half an hour ago. The sun is just starting to break through now.

[cheque]

Humidity levels are showing as quite a bit lower at higher altitudes than low, so you never know. It's a long slog up to Kinder/Grinah to find out though!

Would have been worth it… I went up on Bleaklow and it was great. Most of the Grinah Stones would have been dry.

[Johnny Brown]

Roaches was beautiful today, not that I went. Best approach in this weather is to check satellite and webcam images in the morning. Clear areas are easily spotted and you can usually judge whether they'll spread.

[Will Hunt]

Wolfrey was good today. Obviously hot on the rock but we had a nice day. Inversion was above the level of the reservoir most of the day, so about 400m. Met Office mountain forecast for Yorkshire says inversion between 300-450m tomorrow.

[Duncan campbell]

If you can hack the drive, North Wales is going to be nice (for a change).

Can confirm North Wales was beaut. Tops off at the Mallory boulder!!

Where did you get to Andy?

[andy moles]

Where did you get to Andy?

Guiding some extreme highballs on the east face of Tryfan 

I bet Mallory was minty.

[Bonjoy]

Roaches was beautiful today, not that I went. Best approach in this weather is to check satellite and webcam images in the morning. Clear areas are easily spotted and you can usually judge whether they'll spread.

Thought about going there. Saw the morning forecast was sunny, but the webcams (flash bar and winking man) showed heavy clag. Must have burnt off soon after.

[Johnny Brown]

It's not unusual for the clag to end around Ramshaw, so it can often be shit while Roaches is clear. But the satellite showed a huge clear swathe that way, pics from Shutlingslow didn't show any mist nearby.

[mark20]

Just parked at stanage. Rock looks damp but it’s a Lovely clear day, sunny and only a bit of mist down in the hope valley. No wind.

[teestub]

Sounds like a classic ‘Southerners on Zippy’s Traverse’ day 😬

[mark20]

Looks a lot more misty to the south. Slight NE beeeze on the tops, I recon Burbage west will be decent cons.

[Fiend]

Sounds like a classic ‘Southerners on Zippy’s Traverse’ day 😬

Aren't ALL days like that?!

[Will Hunt]

Where are you getting live satellite images, JB?

[Johnny Brown]

https://en.sat24.com/en

Modis is obvs amazing but only one a day and by the time the data comes through this time of year its usually a bit late.

[SamT]

Its mint at Burb Norht/West by the way.

[Johnny Brown]

Interesting drive over the snake and back today. Mist top level about 1500ft lower on the west side, but later on only clear on the lee slopes where temps were about 9deg warmer than in the mist. Presumably a combo of air masses, sunshine and fohn effect. Clearest view of Snowdonia I can recall enhanced by some subtle vertical refraction, steadily broke up due to fata morgana effects later.

[teestub]

That’s a lot of sweet weather licks in one post 😎

[Bradders]

I didn't understand half of it!

[Johnny Brown]

Shaz has posted a few pics from the Roaches. Really unusual viz.

[andy moles]

Yeah incredible vis above the low cloud blanket from Tryfan yesterday, I could see Wicklow and all the high ground from the Lakes to the Peak. Wouldn't be surprised if Galloway was visible too, but Carneddau in the way.

Also unbelievably warm in the sun at 900m, real t-shirt weather.

[teestub]

Sounds amazing! Was cool reading about it being similar in Scotland, below freezing in the Glens and >10 degrees on the tops.

[Bradders]

Anyone able to explain the dramatic temp differences between high and low ground?

[RobK]

Anyone able to explain the dramatic temp differences between high and low ground?

What we've had this weekend is a subsidence inversion. Often happens in winter with high pressure regions. Essentially the high pressure causes the air to sink and it warms as it does so. This causes a layer of warm air that can trap a layer of cold air beneath it, which is subsequently quite stable.

[SA Chris]

Sounds amazing! Was cool reading about it being similar in Scotland, below freezing in the Glens and >10 degrees on the tops.

Was like that this weekend in several places in Scotland. Had it in Clova before, frozen  in the glen, but sweating in a t shirt after 100m height gain.

[jamesturnbull97]

Anyone been out in/around the peak today?
Forecasts just seem to be showing cloud but that seems too mean damp clag up in Yorkshire. Any different further south? or is the hope of finding dry rock on Grit/Lime/Maglime a complete lost cause for tomorrow.

[Johnny Brown]

Didn't seem worth leaving Sheffield. Low cloud with drizzle.

[slab_happy]

Reporting from near the Fox House: whiteout fog and drizzle.

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If anyone is in the lakes (I'm looking at surprise view boulders) or Lancaster (for thorn crag) how are the conditions looking for tomorrow? The forecast is looking OK but high humidity. Its a long drive to turn around and come home. Thanks

[Paul B]

or Lancaster (for thorn crag) how are the conditions looking for tomorrow? The forecast is looking OK but high humidity. Its a long drive to turn around and come home. Thanks

I'd be concerned about any snow remaining melting as it warms up?

[teestub]

Looking like a dank murkathon most places tomorrow.