[nai]

could it be as simple as Overhanging Arete on Cyrn Las?

[Muenchener]

Could be but isn't 

[duncan]

could it be as simple as Overhanging Arete on Cyrn Las?

The jugs on Overhanging Arete are all too obvious from below and the PW description is rather prosaic: “...follow a line of holds to the huge jug on the arête. Pull up to another huge jug...”

The father of all jugs is to be found on a much lower altitude crag.

[jwi]

My favourite is a Rockfax Topo that draw the line for a multipitch on the wrong mountain. On a wall with no recorded routes.

[cheque]

The Axe?

[Stabbsy]

The full Paul Williams spray-down

blindly grope round the ridiculously overhanging arete for the 'Father of all Jugs'

From the classic Snowdonia Rock Climbs 1982 edition. Ditched most of my old guidebooks when I emigrated; never parting with that one.

Name the route.

Samurai Groove at Hyll Drem?

[Muenchener]

We have a winner 

[Fiend]

Winning route too.



I'd say the amount of beta revealing that jug to go for isn't too much, it's still completely "out there" for a roadside crag route.