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#25 Re: Bouldering Guides
April 30, 2021, 08:00:30 am
Just don't use what 3 words for directions!
Why not Chris?

I cant speak for Chris, but personally I wouldn't use it because there are plenty of other options available that are not reliant on a proprietary system.

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#26 Re: Bouldering Guides
April 30, 2021, 08:27:20 am
I'm intrigued as there's been a bit of a move towards using W3W for emergency rescue. I was just on some working at height / rescue training and the general feeling was that it was a sensible move to use W3W as it cuts down the chances of error.

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#28 Re: Bouldering Guides
April 30, 2021, 09:19:34 am
I'm intrigued as there's been a bit of a move towards using W3W for emergency rescue. I was just on some working at height / rescue training and the general feeling was that it was a sensible move to use W3W as it cuts down the chances of error.

In what way? I'd say it increases chances. A grid ref using phonetic alphabet and numbers is fairly distinguishable even with poor phone reception and high winds, but if you say "baby" and someone mishears as "lady" for example, you could be searching on the other side of the planet. If you start having to spell out each word, then it can be 20 letters or more vs 2 letters and 6 numbers.

And all the comments made above.

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#29 Re: Bouldering Guides
April 30, 2021, 09:22:02 am
Whilst I agree with many of the arguments against W3W, some of them are irrelevant to use in a UK bouldering guide. There is no denying the utility of the system in some context. My preference would be for a guide to have the W3W location plus the LatLong coordinates, such that you get the utility of W3W whilst being futureproofed against any moves to paywall W3W.

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#30 Re: Bouldering Guides
April 30, 2021, 09:29:31 am
Whilst I agree with many of the arguments against W3W, some of them are irrelevant to use in a UK bouldering guide. There is no denying the utility of the system in some context. My preference would be for a guide to have the W3W location plus the LatLong coordinates, such that you get the utility of W3W whilst being futureproofed against any moves to paywall W3W.

If it's utility in a guidebook that you're after then lat/lon + a QR code that redirects to a map pin seems like a better option (QR codes being an open standard, map pins being as precise as you want and again nor proprietary).

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#31 Re: Bouldering Guides
April 30, 2021, 09:47:14 am
I opted for QR code linking to Google Map (and also back to the online versions of the guide hosted on www.hongkongclimbing.com) on the main area intro pages as well as the lat/long for each and every boulder on the specific topo pages too

W3W isn't really widespread for use in HK - I had to google what the hell you guys were all talking about for it t make any sense to me   :-[

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#32 Re: Bouldering Guides
April 30, 2021, 09:54:38 am


a little snippet of how its looking (minus the page numbers in the summary as that'll be the very last thing I update)

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#33 Re: Bouldering Guides
April 30, 2021, 10:04:13 am
That QR code idea is genius, it'd be good to apply that on hard to find individual problems as well. I'm sure its not just me who's ended up lost in the maze of identical tracks around fontainebleau.

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#34 Re: Bouldering Guides
April 30, 2021, 10:05:01 am
W3W isn't really widespread for use in HK - I had to google what the hell you guys were all talking about for it t make any sense to me   :-[

I was going to say maybe it's a language thing, but there seem to be options for most languages.

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#35 Re: Bouldering Guides
April 30, 2021, 04:12:01 pm
Swings and roundabouts. They deffo have advantages, the downside of QR codes is you can't pass on verbally and they take up more pagespace than alternatives.

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#36 Re: Bouldering Guides
April 30, 2021, 05:52:06 pm
Plus one for avoiding W3W.

It appears to be a prime example of rent seeking behaviour.

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#37 Re: Bouldering Guides
April 30, 2021, 07:59:50 pm
Call me an old cynic but W3W has 100 staff and is burning cash. They’re going to want their money back at some point surely?

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#38 Re: Bouldering Guides
May 03, 2021, 09:30:54 am
They'll go the Strava route I bet

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#39 Re: Bouldering Guides
July 13, 2021, 09:13:22 am


No turning back now - okay to print instruction given so time to sit back and wait for a large pallet of books to arrive and take up all available space in an already crammed flat  :2thumbsup:

512 pages, 1,300+ problems, 30+ sectors, and 1 chuffed author with how the final product looks

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#40 Re: Bouldering Guides
July 13, 2021, 08:12:38 pm
 :great:

Congratulations! Looking great hope it goes well!

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#41 Re: Bouldering Guides
August 12, 2021, 06:00:43 am
Out with the old, in with the new... time to find myself a new project to keep me entertained and out of trouble:


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#42 Re: Bouldering Guides
August 20, 2021, 11:38:38 pm
Good effort! I know how easy it is to lose yourself in one of these guidebook projects, so fair play to you for making it through.

 

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