[Dingdong]

It looks like a 3 star bangers compared to Il Pirata

Yeah tbf you’re not wrong there haha

[remus]

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0cHKL3jWvp8A4QcZ1LS0YM?si=249e2aff02144125

All the juicy details about Aidan's two new things, Spots of Time (previously the Helvellyn proj) and the midnight ex-project, straight to your ear-holes.

[Bradders]

On form!!

[Will Hunt]

Funny to hear the discussion on UKB described as Sam and Aidan getting broadsides. From what I can gather the fuss was about climbing news being paywalled, which it transpires it never was, and I think people were unanimous in saying that they quite liked Aidan? Storm in a teacup!

[Tony S]

Funny to hear the discussion on UKB described as Sam and Aidan getting broadsides.

I heard Gen Z snowflakes are unable to concentrate long enough to get through a TikTok video, let alone understand the subtleties of a nuanced written debate around social media, news reporting, commercialisation, professionalisation and how all that relates to climbing up some rocks when it’s not raining…

 

[Dingdong]

Funny to hear the discussion on UKB described as Sam and Aidan getting broadsides.

I heard Gen Z snowflakes are unable to concentrate long enough to get through a TikTok video, let alone understand the subtleties of a nuanced written debate around social media, news reporting, commercialisation, professionalisation and how all that relates to climbing up some rocks when it’s not raining…

 

Ok boomer

[Fiend]

I don't own a spotify, is there a news report with words and pictures??

[Dingdong]

I don't own a spotify, is there a news report with words and pictures??

You will need to wait for the monthly telegram update via your local telegram messenger

[Will Hunt]

Funny to hear the discussion on UKB described as Sam and Aidan getting broadsides.

I heard Gen Z snowflakes are unable to concentrate long enough to get through a TikTok video, let alone understand the subtleties of a nuanced written debate around social media, news reporting, commercialisation, professionalisation and how all that relates to climbing up some rocks when it’s not raining…

 

Well done, Tony. You've proven them right.

[joe-m]

Funny to hear the discussion on UKB described as Sam and Aidan getting broadsides.

.

I heard Gen Z snowflakes are unable to concentrate long enough to get through a TikTok video, let alone understand the subtleties of a nuanced written debate around social media, news reporting, commercialisation, professionalisation and how all that relates to climbing up some rocks when it’s not raining…

 

Ironically you’d have to listen to an hour and a half podcast to get their nuanced point of view

[Droyd]

Leaving aside the fact that Tony is surely either trolling or an AI chatbot trained on nothing but Daily Mail comment sections, describing the four or so pages of bollocks in the significant repeats thread as a “nuanced written debate” is comedic genius, given it seemed to largely be people not understanding how Patreon and Discord work.

On the subject of Aidan and Sam being “broadsided”: they started putting out a weekly podcast for free, implemented a paid element in response to demand for it that included a members-only Discord in an attempt to give people good value for money (which, as people have noted, gives them a tiny remuneration while avoiding adverts in the podcast), and then Aidan went on that Discord to discuss with a select group of people what he’d been up to as he valued their thoughts, and word got out. On that basis I think they have every right to feel broadsided by posts like

the suppression of the actual news itself

and

some kind of paid for thing, where you buy your way into their circle of "friends" sworn to secrecy

Yeah yeah, I'm sure some/most/all of it is "just a joke" - but if you have to explain that, maybe it wasn't a very good one. These are the posts that give UKB its rep as a place of crustiness and nasty criticism.

Just in case anyone isn't already on board with Careless Talk: if you want actual nuance I'd highly recommend listening to the latest episode Remus linked to, as well as pretty much every other episode they've put out. At this point I'm basically over climbing podcasts (too many ads and self-important hosts and "tell us how you got into climbing" conversations and myopic focus on specific pieces of training advice), but this one is brilliant.

[Dingdong]

These are the posts that give UKB its rep as a place of crustiness and nasty criticism.

As they say, there's no smoke without fire.

[Will Hunt]

On that basis I think they have every right to feel broadsided by posts like

the suppression of the actual news itself

and

some kind of paid for thing, where you buy your way into their circle of "friends" sworn to secrecy

I admit that I found the thread too boring to follow closely, but wasn't this just people talking at cross-purposes because Remus' initial post gave the impression that the news had been paywalled when in fact it hadn't been? I'm sure there were some harsher comments on the thread but the two quotes you've picked there don't even strike me as being nasty - people disagreeing with each other isn't necessarily nastiness (notwithstanding that Tony's post above is obviously quite nasty; there are exceptions).

[abarro81]

Tony's post here is obviously a joke. My original post about paying a £3 patreon to kick people in the balls was obviously a joke. But no-one can take a joke anymore.

Ironically, the posts Droyd picked out before discussing jokes are obviously not jokes, they're a discussion about the idea of paywalling news or buying into being "discord friends" (to be said in an Inbetweeners voice, obviously) and then being sworn to secrecy. Which it turns out didn't happen (but no doubt will at some point, my money's on Ondra)

Nothing I wrote is really close to what I'd consider a broadside. I've not listened to the podcast yet, but my assumption would be that the choice of word would be a wind up. If so, touche! If not 

[Dingdong]

Tony's post here is obviously a joke.

Was it though? If his past ramblings are anything to go by I’m not so sure…

[chickencurry60]

Barrows once again a voice of reason on this forum.

I don't think anyone actually thinks Aiden has done anything wrong now that we know what's happened, and I personally think it's a much more interesting way of getting news than an embargoed article.

Thread split so there can be an actual discussion on Aidan's accomplishments and possibly the most significant FA in Britain in however many years.

[monkoffunk]

(Slightly feel like how seriously you take the broadsides comment will reflect how seriously you take yourself whilst in the same breath telling others not to take themselves so seriously.)

Anyway!

Highly recommend the podcast episode, really interesting to hear about the whole process and the feelings behind some of the individual attempts. They wanted to avoid the problem of the grade being front and centre to the point where the climb gets lost, and they nailed it.

Massive kudos to Aidan, possibly two of the most significant FAs in the world in recent years??

[MarkJ]

Will there be a simple explanation of what's happened on UKC at the end of the week ?

[hongkongstuey]

Thread split so there can be an actual discussion on Aidan's accomplishments and possibly the most significant FA in Britain in however many years.

How dare you suggest such a thing... 

Agree - these ascents are massive and i can't wait to see the vids that get made. Hope the one Aiden discusses in the podcast about a possible Patagucci collab goes ahead as the production quality for these is normally top notch (and assuming it would also have the usual Wedge level of quality if Sam is involved too)

In the meantime, is there much out there about the Midnight Proj ? I know next to nothing about this line so keen to learn a bit more about it   

[dave k]

There is an existing (Wedge??) video of Aidan working The Midnight Project. I remember some discussion about bruised finger tips.

[36chambers]

I've definitely seen a video of Aidan falling off the midnight project (possibly on the last hard move). I'm pretty sure it was shoe-pod clip that he posted on his insta last year, but I couldn't find it when I had a quick look the other day. 

edit: I thought the above comment was a question. Perhaps I was just looking in the wrong place.

[monkoffunk]

https://youtu.be/fdChDa78tU4?si=BTMWfYWCd2KoiriH

9min 36sec

[Fiend]

Looks very cool.

[monkoffunk]

He hasn’t graded it, but he did say that when he was attempting a high start he felt that was around 9A and that the low start must be 9A+. He went on to climb the low start but changed his mind about the grade being that high. So remains to be seen!

[remus]

I've definitely seen a video of Aidan falling off the midnight project (possibly on the last hard move). I'm pretty sure it was shoe-pod clip that he posted on his insta last year, but I couldn't find it when I had a quick look the other day. 

edit: I thought the above comment was a question. Perhaps I was just looking in the wrong place.

Full clip is on the patreon https://www.patreon.com/posts/aidans-close-go-83500270