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I would think that there would be a place in the market for:

1. Lightweight approach shoes. (Nope, Evolv Cruzer would have been close to lightweight if they had used something less daft than canvas for the uppers, but they have now been discontinued. The lightest approach shoes on the market now are about the same weight as two camalot 5s. No one clips that to the harness unless they must. The lightest trail-running shoes on the market weight about as much as a quickdraw, for comparison)


Back to this - that's precisely what I want!  I've got Saucony trail shoes, which grip well on both wet/dry rock and typical Scottish heather, grass, mud etc. But, they are sieves, so let any hint of water straight in, don't quite have the stiffness and burliness required to last more than a season, and no clip loops.

I've just shelled out on Scarpa Crux's, which are great, but too heavy and the sole is not lugged enough for my liking. For the amount of "actual" scrambling I do, a "climbing" sole is just not good enough.

Was looking at the La Sportiva Guide TX:  https://www.sportiva.com/tx-guide.html  but would like to try them on, and they're not an awful lot lighter than the TX4/Scarpa Crux anyway...  Maybe the Jackal?  https://www.sportiva.com/jackal.html

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I would think that there would be a place in the market for:

2. Small haulbags. Surely no one need more than 20 l capacity for a wall that can be done in a day? 35 l is the smallest I've seen: what on earth are people bringing on the routes?

Camp do a 25l one: https://www.camp-usa.com/outdoor/product/packs/cassin-fitz-25-haul-pack/

Actually has a reasonable back system as well. Ideal size for day missions.

Looks ideal. jwi’s sacrificial cheap day pack was my first thought but it wouldn’t survive a trip up something like the S. Face of the Marmolada.

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A Bouldering/climbing approach shoe is a bit of a moon on a stick job though...

Sometimes a firm sole - sometimes soft. Sometimes lugged for mud, sometimes slicker for rock. Light to wear but heavyweight enough to be supportive in certain circumstances etc.. waterproof but not too heavy etc.. etc...

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I would think that there would be a place in the market for:

2. Small haulbags. Surely no one need more than 20 l capacity for a wall that can be done in a day? 35 l is the smallest I've seen: what on earth are people bringing on the routes?

Camp do a 25l one: https://www.camp-usa.com/outdoor/product/packs/cassin-fitz-25-haul-pack/

Actually has a reasonable back system as well. Ideal size for day missions.

Looks ideal. jwi’s sacrificial cheap day pack was my first thought but it wouldn’t survive a trip up something like the S. Face of the Marmolada.


No idea if this is relevant but just spotted these while looking at their pads:

https://alpkit.com/collections/bouldering-mats/products/el-packer-small

https://alpkit.com/collections/bouldering-mats/products/el-packer-medium

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I would think that there would be a place in the market for:

2. Small haulbags. Surely no one need more than 20 l capacity for a wall that can be done in a day? 35 l is the smallest I've seen: what on earth are people bringing on the routes?

Camp do a 25l one: https://www.camp-usa.com/outdoor/product/packs/cassin-fitz-25-haul-pack/

Actually has a reasonable back system as well. Ideal size for day missions.

Looks ideal. jwi’s sacrificial cheap day pack was my first thought but it wouldn’t survive a trip up something like the S. Face of the Marmolada.


No idea if this is relevant but just spotted these while looking at their pads:

https://alpkit.com/collections/bouldering-mats/products/el-packer-small

https://alpkit.com/collections/bouldering-mats/products/el-packer-medium

I reckon they'd get knackered really quickly, they're only designed for internal organisation within a proper haulbag if I understand it properly, whereas the Camp bag is a mini haul-bag with the proper outer material.

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A Bouldering/climbing approach shoe is a bit of a moon on a stick job though...

Sometimes a firm sole - sometimes soft. Sometimes lugged for mud, sometimes slicker for rock. Light to wear but heavyweight enough to be supportive in certain circumstances etc.. waterproof but not too heavy etc.. etc...

I just want a light weight shoe with sticky rubber. I am willing to sacrifice everything else   

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Could send a pair of lightweight trail-running shoes to a good rock shoe resoler and ask for 5.10 S1 canyoning rubber. Could even buy the canyoning rubber yourself and send with shoe to resoler.

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That's what Es and Fin do for the cuillin traverse. Walsh's resoled with dimple rubber.

Try Sacuony trail running shoes, according to people much more in the know than me, they're significantly stickier than innov8s and salmon etc. I've found them pretty good on rock.

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I would think that there would be a place in the market for:

2. Small haulbags. Surely no one need more than 20 l capacity for a wall that can be done in a day? 35 l is the smallest I've seen: what on earth are people bringing on the routes?

Camp do a 25l one: https://www.camp-usa.com/outdoor/product/packs/cassin-fitz-25-haul-pack/

Actually has a reasonable back system as well. Ideal size for day missions.

OUIIII, and in stock as well! Thanks!

I just bought this one and have used it on one route with a long approach (so we slept on the approach). Amazingly well designed haulbag! Extendable enough so it is possible to fit in some extra camping equipment and small enough when compacted to be useful on a single day route. Hauls well of course. Wish you +ve karma for the good advice.

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I would think that there would be a place in the market for:

2. Small haulbags. Surely no one need more than 20 l capacity for a wall that can be done in a day? 35 l is the smallest I've seen: what on earth are people bringing on the routes?

Camp do a 25l one: https://www.camp-usa.com/outdoor/product/packs/cassin-fitz-25-haul-pack/

Actually has a reasonable back system as well. Ideal size for day missions.

OUIIII, and in stock as well! Thanks!

I just bought this one and have used it on one route with a long approach (so we slept on the approach). Amazingly well designed haulbag! Extendable enough so it is possible to fit in some extra camping equipment and small enough when compacted to be useful on a single day route. Hauls well of course. Wish you +ve karma for the good advice.

Nae bother   ;D

Glad to hear it worked well!

 

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