For those of us who've only come across it in passing, is Mountain Project basically a US version of UKC?
Somebody I follow on the old Instagram posted a story about this. It was a number of route pages from Mountain Post with unpleasant names. There was then the response from an admin (probably a volunteer admin such as they have on UKC as opposed to somebody actually running the site) who had responded to the flags with some MUHrica-esque bullshit.For what it's worth I was on a Zoom call last Saturday with guidebook producers from the CC, FRCC, Northumberland MC, SMC, and the YMC and when I raised the issue nobody batted an eyelid. Everybody is on board.(Not that our view is at all relevant because Rockfax will soon complete their mission of wiping definitive and volunteer-produced guidebooks from the face of the earth. All will be consumed by the mighty Rockfax).
An interesting article about racist route names and implementing a system to flag offensive ones on Mountain Project. However it looks like the nicked the idea from the creator and advocate of the system, Melissa Utomo, a woman of colour. Not a good look for Mountain Project. And definitely smacks of wanting to look like you are anti-racist without actually engaging in any change.https://www.melaninbasecamp.com/around-the-bonfire/2020/7/6/how-mountain-project-stole-from-a-woman-of-color
Quote from: Will Hunt on July 09, 2020, 04:27:23 pmSomebody I follow on the old Instagram posted a story about this. It was a number of route pages from Mountain Post with unpleasant names. There was then the response from an admin (probably a volunteer admin such as they have on UKC as opposed to somebody actually running the site) who had responded to the flags with some MUHrica-esque bullshit.For what it's worth I was on a Zoom call last Saturday with guidebook producers from the CC, FRCC, Northumberland MC, SMC, and the YMC and when I raised the issue nobody batted an eyelid. Everybody is on board.(Not that our view is at all relevant because Rockfax will soon complete their mission of wiping definitive and volunteer-produced guidebooks from the face of the earth. All will be consumed by the mighty Rockfax).All is not lost Will. There will be 12 from the various peoples of Britain who will form a fellowship and despite difficult adventures some will reach mount Doom and throw Alan's ring of power to destruction.
I read that article yesterday, and for what it's worth I think it really over eggs the 'stolen feature' angle. Flagging of content is a very normal feature.
Back on topic. If you've not seen this - its worth watching Michael Holding talking during the cricket yesterday. Bear in mind this wasnt a pre-planned segment - this is Michael talking off the cuff filling in during a rain delay - and its all the more powerful for it. https://news.sky.com/story/michael-holding-ex-west-indies-stars-impassioned-plea-to-end-institutionalised-racism-12024733
Quote from: tomtom on July 10, 2020, 09:35:35 amBack on topic. If you've not seen this - its worth watching Michael Holding talking during the cricket yesterday. Bear in mind this wasnt a pre-planned segment - this is Michael talking off the cuff filling in during a rain delay - and its all the more powerful for it. https://news.sky.com/story/michael-holding-ex-west-indies-stars-impassioned-plea-to-end-institutionalised-racism-12024733Excellent.
Quote from: Andy B on July 10, 2020, 11:44:05 amQuote from: tomtom on July 10, 2020, 09:35:35 amBack on topic. If you've not seen this - its worth watching Michael Holding talking during the cricket yesterday. Bear in mind this wasnt a pre-planned segment - this is Michael talking off the cuff filling in during a rain delay - and its all the more powerful for it. https://news.sky.com/story/michael-holding-ex-west-indies-stars-impassioned-plea-to-end-institutionalised-racism-12024733Excellent.Agreed, was fully expecting this to go no further than the usual "starting a conversation" gumph, as an unfortunate amount of other coverage (including in the climbing media) seems to have done. The clear and passionate focus on imbalances in representation (particularly in the ECB) and the explicit calling out of unconscious bias in white communities that wouldn't consider themselves racist was a refreshing surprise.