At the moment we’re at about 65,000 excess deaths, according the Financial Times. I honestly think we could have prevented about 50,000 of them, if we’d gone early like South Korea. I think Sage got it wrong, PHE got it wrong, and Boris Johnson got it wrong.
Leicester East MP claims there was an 11 day delay before informing the local response.https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/05/government-errors-leicester-covid-19-spike
I'd prefer to hear what you think offwidth.Bet it'll be Sunak as leader by the next election, unless Gove stabs him in the back.
Sunak lives amongst jackals and is well down the perceived food chain. He will almost certainly be a victim of any early Boris departure (given the way things are going that might even be early next year). Tory MPs removed their hero Maggie so they won't blink at doing the same to Boris if he looks like enough of a liability (and an opportunity for the more talented than the current cabinet to obtain good jobs).
I think you are naive about Tory MP ambition and how that plays out and underestimating racial bias in the very old and very white Tory membership. You need to think on how they replaced Thatcher who was incredibly popular 'amongst the troops' and a pretty good campaigner for John Major. I will offer a gentleman's pint on my view that Sunak won't be the next Tory leader. I'll give you odds of 4 to 1 which seems nice and generous since the bookies are offering around 4:1 on him as next PM (Starmer currently around 2:1).
Quote from: Offwidth on July 07, 2020, 06:00:25 pmI think you are naive about Tory MP ambition and how that plays out and underestimating racial bias in the very old and very white Tory membership. You need to think on how they replaced Thatcher who was incredibly popular 'amongst the troops' and a pretty good campaigner for John Major. I will offer a gentleman's pint on my view that Sunak won't be the next Tory leader. I'll give you odds of 4 to 1 which seems nice and generous since the bookies are offering around 4:1 on him as next PM (Starmer currently around 2:1).Sunak to be next Tory leader (PM or otherwise) at 4/1? Done. Ill have a pint/a tenner on that as you prefer!
I think Toby was referring to Bojo as the intellectual lightweight not Maggie. Unless I’ve missed the fact she was also a womaniser.
Quote from: ali k on July 08, 2020, 11:16:43 amI think Toby was referring to Bojo as the intellectual lightweight not Maggie. Unless I’ve missed the fact she was also a womaniser.My profuse apologies to Toby... I need to start wearing glasses... and I'm suitably punished by feeling even more dirty defending Maggie.
Quote from: spidermonkey09 on July 07, 2020, 06:23:28 pmQuote from: Offwidth on July 07, 2020, 06:00:25 pmI think you are naive about Tory MP ambition and how that plays out and underestimating racial bias in the very old and very white Tory membership. You need to think on how they replaced Thatcher who was incredibly popular 'amongst the troops' and a pretty good campaigner for John Major. I will offer a gentleman's pint on my view that Sunak won't be the next Tory leader. I'll give you odds of 4 to 1 which seems nice and generous since the bookies are offering around 4:1 on him as next PM (Starmer currently around 2:1).Sunak to be next Tory leader (PM or otherwise) at 4/1? Done. Ill have a pint/a tenner on that as you prefer!It was not an open offer, it was for Toby. You can tempt me into similar if you come up with some other scenario where we differ so much on the odds. I'll happily buy you a pint any time we next meet in a BMC meeting.
I think he is stitched up already. He is giving out money like Father Christmas right now... yet plenty are falling through the cracks and are really struggling and their stories are getting more attention. Wait and see how he looks when the true scale of the economic and employment mess becomes obvious, let alone if he survives to later when he is asking for money back to pay the debt.