Similarly, I kind of now fancy going out into the peak to get into an argument with the police. Which is dumb since I'm only fingerboarding to rehab an injured finger at the moment anyway.
Similarly, I kind of now fancy going out into the peak to get into an argument with the police.
Just when you thought it was safe to go back to the crag:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-55560814The police force involved, Derbyshire Police, said driving for exercise was "not in the spirit" of lockdown. The BBC contacted the Cabinet Office, Home Office, College of Policing and National Police Chiefs' Council to ask for clarification over what they define as "local area" in relation to exercise. None could clarify this.
They asked him where he had come from and when he said Sheffield they said he was now in Derbyshire and they could therefore give him a fine.
Surprised the two women were not just warned and then sent home. Though I guess if you wanted to ‘make an example’ for publicity it’s worked (in a very heavy handed way). I can see why they wanted to go somewhere for a walk and chat together - but that could easily be done closer to home surely?The cup of tea picnic part of the story is just nuts. Though we only have one side of the story...
The cup of tea picnic part of the story is just nuts. Though we only have one side of the story...
And also factually wrong as the county boundary runs along the road and they were the right side of it!
Quote from: tomtom on January 08, 2021, 01:20:47 pmThe cup of tea picnic part of the story is just nuts. Though we only have one side of the story...I hope these ladies pointed out the irony of receiving a fine for defining 5 miles as local, by someone calling mint tea a picnic.
Quote from: 205Chris on January 08, 2021, 11:35:36 amJust when you thought it was safe to go back to the crag:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-55560814The police force involved, Derbyshire Police, said driving for exercise was "not in the spirit" of lockdown. The BBC contacted the Cabinet Office, Home Office, College of Policing and National Police Chiefs' Council to ask for clarification over what they define as "local area" in relation to exercise. None could clarify this.Came here to post this. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour. Particularly concerning that the College of Policing are saying it's up to individual officer's discretion, when they have no legal right to do so given there is nothing in the legislation around travel to exercise. QuoteDerbyshire Police said: "It is up to each individual officer on a case-by-case basis to decide what is reasonable as the legislation does not proscribe a distance."In fact that's wrong. The legislation doesn't even say you can't travel for exercise, let alone prescribe an allowed distance! It says exercise is a reasonable excuse to be outside your home, simple as that. You can't fine people or otherwise sanction them for doing things that are "not in the spirit" of the lockdown!! Crikey that's pushed my buttons
Derbyshire Police said: "It is up to each individual officer on a case-by-case basis to decide what is reasonable as the legislation does not proscribe a distance."
Quote from: tomtom on January 08, 2021, 01:20:47 pmSurprised the two women were not just warned and then sent home. Though I guess if you wanted to ‘make an example’ for publicity it’s worked (in a very heavy handed way). I can see why they wanted to go somewhere for a walk and chat together - but that could easily be done closer to home surely?The cup of tea picnic part of the story is just nuts. Though we only have one side of the story...Is it a case of any publicity is good? So far I've seen nothing but outrage / condemning the police on this, and personally it makes me more determined to head out climbing tomorrow as I had intended.
I'm from the Hope Valley originally and have a lot of friends and family that still live out there. There is now a growing amount of Pitchfork wielding happening on Facebook. The intolerance kind of pumps my nads a bit, but I can also see both sides of the coin. It has been truly mental out in the peak this year and I can imagine locals have just had enough, and now they have the excuse of a proper lockdown, perhaps the local plod are attempting to reduce the number of 'townies' coming out with a few public shows of authority. Derbyshire/The Peak does suffer from being bounded on all sides by huge conurbations.Never new that S11 runs all the way out to toadsmouth/fox house and burgage bridges, so the police are going to get a hard time from me if I get stopped at Burgage North!. Still think we as a collective group should keep a low profile. Big teams on Westside and Remergence for example. are going to attract unwanted attention.
Quote from: Bonjoy on January 08, 2021, 01:55:52 pmQuote from: tomtom on January 08, 2021, 01:20:47 pmThe cup of tea picnic part of the story is just nuts. Though we only have one side of the story...I hope these ladies pointed out the irony of receiving a fine for defining 5 miles as local, by someone calling mint tea a picnic.Are you gentlemen suggesting Derbyshire Police might be a few sandwiches short of a picnic?
The Peak Effect this year has been interesting I agree. To me it has been a combination of closed pubs/other facilities which would have taken the strain off, but also speaks to a massive population of people who want access to the outdoors. The locals are going to have to get used to it.