For Sheff residents it would appear that the entire Burbage valley is in S Yorkshire and hence still Tier 3. As such driving from the city to climb there would still seem to be entirely reasonable, especially if you have a Lancia Delta Integrale.
Re legality of this. The law on traveling away from your home for residents of Tier 4 is the same as the most recent lockdown, but the guidance is significantly stricter. It doesn't even just say not to leave your tier 4 area, it says not to leave your village, town or part of a city. It's fairly obvious that excludes the Peak for most people (Hathersage residents might be ok). Guidance like that never existed before.The reason it could be important is in how the law is interpreted. Within the law, your travel away from home to take exercise or do recreation in an outdoor space has to be "reasonably necessary". In the context of the tier 4 guidance, it seems far more likely to me now that a policeman (who in practice will be making the decision for you) or theoretically a court, would judge a 45 minute drive in to the peak to be unreasonable.Would be interested in comments from any of the lawyers...
None of the above affects someone living in a Tier 3 area from travelling to a Tier 4 area for exercise - there is nothing in the legislation to prevent that (because the legal bit all stems from the requirement to stay at home) although it is advised against in the guidance
It’s infuriating that guidance and rules for the general public needs legal interpretation
If you live in a Tier 4 area, you must not leave your home unless you have a reasonable excuse (for example, for work or education purposes). If you need to travel you should stay local – meaning avoiding travelling outside of your village, town or the part of a city where you live – and look to reduce the number of journeys you make overall. The list of reasons you can leave your home and area include, but are not limited to:- outdoor recreation or exercise. This should be done locally wherever possible, but you can travel a short distance within your Tier 4 area to do so if necessary (for example, to access an open space)Travelling to a Tier 4 area from a Tier 1, 2 or 3 areaYou should not travel into a Tier 4 area from another part of the UK, other than for reasons such as:travel to work where you cannot work from hometravel to education and for caring responsibilitiesto visit (including staying overnight with) those in your support bubble – or your childcare bubble for childcareto attend hospital, GP and other medical appointments or visits where you have had an accident or are concerned about your healthto provide emergency assistance, and to avoid injury or illness, or to escape a risk of harm (such as domestic abuse)
I'm not remotely convinced the risk of transmission between random hillwalkers justifies these restrictions. However the reality I see out and about is that people are desperate to socialise and quite happy to bend the rules, and even without car sharing there is plenty going on in the great outdoors that could cause transmission. If that is the reason for the restrictions they should state that clearly and enforce breaches though.
Mrs B has been reading it out, it says you can exercise but should be limited to once a day and you should not travel outside your local area...........however that is defined.
For Sheffielders I would view Eastern Edges, Rivelin, Wharncliffe and Anston as local. Anything else would be stretching the definition.
You should always stay local in the village, town, or part of the city where you live
Quote from: shark on January 04, 2021, 08:43:15 pmFor Sheffielders I would view Eastern Edges, Rivelin, Wharncliffe and Anston as local. Anything else would be stretching the definition.I'm not going to claim to be familiar with all of them, but Google tells me it's a 20min drive from central Sheffield to stanage, which seems rather difficult to square with:"If you do leave home for a permitted reason, you should always stay local in the village, town, or part of the city where you live."If a villager is advised to stay within their village and you're advised to stay in your own part of a town or city, then driving out of the city and potentially past several other villages is maybe not quite what I'd have assumed they have in mind?
Quote from: shark on January 04, 2021, 08:43:15 pmFor Sheffielders I would view Eastern Edges, Rivelin, Wharncliffe and Anston as local. Anything else would be stretching the definition.is that the Anston in Rotherham?QuoteYou should always stay local in the village, town, or part of the city where you live