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#3850 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 17, 2021, 05:18:57 pm
I am told that the anecdotal evidence is that with the Pfizer vaccine the majority of people feel ok after the first jab but a bit run down after the second, whereas with the Astra Zenica it's the first jab that's more likely to leave you feeling knackered, but you're fine after the second.

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#3851 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 17, 2021, 05:31:09 pm
Got my second AZ on Friday - will report how it compares to the first (that was pretty bad for 24 hours tbh).

Shame the vaccine supply issues cropped up 2-3 months ago - otherwise everyone would have been done by now.. (1 dose at least).

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#3852 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 17, 2021, 05:45:37 pm
I am told that the anecdotal evidence is that with the Pfizer vaccine the majority of people feel ok after the first jab but a bit run down after the second, whereas with the Astra Zenica it's the first jab that's more likely to leave you feeling knackered, but you're fine after the second.

Not just anecdotal -- also confirmed by https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01115-6/fulltext as an incidental finding:

"In groups with homologous vaccine schedules, systemic reactogenicity was greater after the prime dose in the ChAd group, and after the boost dose in the BNT group."

Translated: with AZ you tend to feel rubbish after dose 1, with Pfizer it tends to be after dose 2.

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#3853 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 17, 2021, 05:57:28 pm
My n=1 re: AZ was true.

Woke up feeling fine after jab at 7:30pm night before, and then went off a cliff at about 10am!

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#3854 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 17, 2021, 07:13:04 pm
Getting my first Pfizer on Friday evening (second booked for June 28th). We'll see how it goes.

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#3855 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 17, 2021, 07:33:14 pm
May your side-effects be mild and your immune response robust!

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#3856 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 17, 2021, 07:38:55 pm
Thanks slab_happy!

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#3857 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 17, 2021, 07:48:21 pm
Got my second AZ on Friday - will report how it compares to the first (that was pretty bad for 24 hours tbh).

I'm due for my 2nd AZ jab in early July - so any more data on the prospects would be welcome. The 1st shot left me with an "aftermath of flu" feeling for two days (tired, achy, generally washed-up) and a painfully bruised arm for a week.  That said, I had a pretty strong climbing session on the 2nd day, despite feeling like death warmed up (I had the day off and couldn't help myself), maybe its bark was worse than its bite.

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#3858 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 17, 2021, 08:07:56 pm
I gave up guessing about side effects. I had both Moderna shots with no side effects at all. My other half had a fever and other symptoms for three days following her second Moderna shot...

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#3859 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 17, 2021, 08:22:27 pm
I had two Pfizer jabs. Both resulted in mild side effects. Headache, a light fever and fatigue for less than 24 hours. The second was easier than the first.

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#3860 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 17, 2021, 09:52:50 pm
I’ve just had my second dose slot moved from 8 June to 22 May.
Didn’t request it, just got a text.

Nice. If it's any reassurance, I had my second vaccine a couple of weeks ago, and had extremely low level of side effects compared to feeling pretty ropey after the first one.
I was just the opposite no side effects at all from the first one where as with the second one I felt like I’d got Dom’s for a week.

Me too, from first Pfizer. I was convinced I'd pretty much ruptured my hamstring, only for it to fade after a few days. Still feeling pretty weird 5 days on, but I think I caught a grim toddler cold at the same time. The doms thing was very noticeable though.

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#3861 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 18, 2021, 08:11:11 am
New walk-in vaccination clinic in Bolton, open 8am to 8pm daily:

https://twitter.com/LythgoeDawn/status/1394280959827140608

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#3862 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 18, 2021, 08:17:14 am
My n=1 re: AZ was true.

Woke up feeling fine after jab at 7:30pm night before, and then went off a cliff at about 10am!

Was tempted to feign feeling crap and do the same (not the 'cliff obv)

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#3863 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 18, 2021, 09:07:33 am
Had my second AZ vaccine yesterday morning and felt slightly groggy yesterday with a slight tightness in my chest (felt like i should take my inhaler for the first time in a while), much better today though with only a slightly sore upper arm. This is much better than after the first jab when i had a banging head ache and needed a day on the sofa shivering and feeling sorry for myself.

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#3864 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 19, 2021, 06:39:12 pm
I have been accused of running a vaccine trial pyramid scheme and I have no shame. Do some Science, it's fun!

For any of you jammy bastards who've already had two jabs and wouldn't mind a third:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/may/19/covid-booster-trial-will-give-third-vaccine-dose-to-uk-volunteers

https://www.covboost.org.uk/

Who they want:

"Adults that are aged 30 and over who received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccination in either December 2020 or January 2021 and who are 84 days post second vaccination are able to take part (due to the NHS deployment timelines, some sites may need to invite people who have been prime-boosted with their second dose of AstraZeneca vaccine with a minimum of 70 days from their second dose)."

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#3865 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 22, 2021, 07:44:06 am
Jab #2 report (AstraZenica):

Had my second one at 9am yesterday (Friday). Felt fine - bit ‘out of it’ from 10-12 but then managed a trip to IKEA and the school run without any wobbles (perhaps it helped! 😁) so all fine. Got tired quick in the evening and in bed by 9. Fairly fitful night - but nothing that bad. Arm a bit sore/stiff this morning.

Much much better than Jab 1 where by 7pm I was lying in bed shaking like a shitting dog.

The vaccination place (small hospital) was noticeably busier and faster than 11 weeks ago. May be a day by day thing but they seemed to be rattling them through.

We also had a pop up vaccination place from 11-3 outside the mosque just around the corner from home. The mosque had organised it presumably for more reluctant members of their followers, but instead the que (which was long and formed fast) seemed to be mostly white millennials - of which there are plenty in West Dids. Plenty of demand anyway… and there didn’t seem to be any turning away of people.

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#3866 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 22, 2021, 03:01:44 pm
All done, in and out within 5 minutes and ten minutes before my appointment time of 09:30. No queue but steady stream and no unoccupied stations.
Went yesterday afternoon for Mrs OMM’s first. Pfizer, because she’s 12 years younger than me and apparently not allowed the AZ.
Apart from a sore arm and much wailing and gnashing of teeth before the jab (she had serious anxiety issues), no obvious side affects for her.
I don’t even have a sore arm or even the mild fatigue I felt the first time.

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#3867 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 22, 2021, 06:41:40 pm
and much wailing and gnashing of teeth before the jab (she had serious anxiety issues)

Good for her for going for it despite the anxiety! And congrats to you both!

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#3868 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 23, 2021, 02:48:08 pm
There’s something fishy (more fishy than normal) about how the Govt and PHE are (not) releasing data about the growth of the Indian variant.

https://twitter.com/dgurdasani1/status/1396373990986375171?s=21


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#3869 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 23, 2021, 04:29:15 pm
Um remind me, who is head of the new body overseeing PHE, the National Institute for Health Protection, with
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a single and relentless mission, protecting people from threats to this country’s health.
It will report directly to ministers and support the clinical leadership of the chief medical officers and will be dedicated to the investigation and prevention of infectious diseases and external health threats.
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https://www.shponline.co.uk/news/public-health-england-to-be-replaced-by-national-institute-for-health-protection/

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#3870 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 23, 2021, 06:04:10 pm
All done, in and out within 5 minutes and ten minutes before my appointment time of 09:30. No queue but steady stream and no unoccupied stations.
Went yesterday afternoon for Mrs OMM’s first. Pfizer, because she’s 12 years younger than me and apparently not allowed the AZ.
Apart from a sore arm and much wailing and gnashing of teeth before the jab (she had serious anxiety issues), no obvious side affects for her.
I don’t even have a sore arm or even the mild fatigue I felt the first time.

Belay that.

I was absolutely fine this morning. Went for a session whilst No’s 1&3 were in Youth Coaching, as is my want of a Sunday morning. A few quick callisthenics to warm up, around an hour of finger board and then 1:2’s on the Lattice board. My arms just quit on circuit/rep 6, aka very early. No biggie, it’s been a heavy week, so...
Anyway, went to Ikea after lunch, started to feel really bad tempered and aches in my arms. Put it down to crowding and DOMS. By the time we got home at 16:00, I was clearly irrationally angry and my shoulder at injection site is agony, as if I’ve torn the muscle. Not tender to touch, particularly, but lifting roasting dishes in and out of the oven is tricky, since the arm keeps “collapsing/going weak” with a stab of pain.
This is not helping with the anger. I turned the music up, because I was muttering a litany of obscenities under my breath.
This helped and currently the people around me exist in relative safety.

Relative to people living in active war zones, I mean.

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#3871 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 23, 2021, 06:28:11 pm
Might be because there are no 5G transmitters down your way yet. All good here - lots of bandwidth and sparks coming from my gold tooth.

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#3872 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 23, 2021, 06:41:34 pm
Is the urge to go to Ikea a listed side-effect?  :sick:
Feeling pretty hesitant now... 

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#3873 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 23, 2021, 07:18:58 pm
Don't worry if you have the Pfizer jab it's more likely to be Wickes.

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#3874 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
May 23, 2021, 07:23:17 pm
There’s something fishy (more fishy than normal) about how the Govt and PHE are (not) releasing data about the growth of the Indian variant.

https://twitter.com/dgurdasani1/status/1396373990986375171?s=21

I have no doubt Gurdasani is infinitely more qualified than me but she had been consistently wrong about every stage of the reopening and what it might do to covid rates. She's also a zero covid zealot so I stopped reading her a while ago.

Regarding this specific "sneaking the data out during Eurovision" accusation, I feel like the more likely explanation is that was simply when it was ready. If it had been delayed til 9am Monday the same teeth would be gnashing on twitter about the government suppressing publication. Nothing pleases these people.

 

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