The numbers are real.
Isn't there something weird about the way we record deaths related to covid? Ie that if you've ever had it and you die, no matter how much later, it's recorded as covid related and included in the stats. Ould that account for the difference? Can't remember where I read about it though, sorry.
Quote from: Duma on August 09, 2020, 11:44:04 amIsn't there something weird about the way we record deaths related to covid? Ie that if you've ever had it and you die, no matter how much later, it's recorded as covid related and included in the stats. Ould that account for the difference? Can't remember where I read about it though, sorry.The numbers that involves are tiny proportion of the total covid deaths. If anything in the UK covid deaths are underreported as many who die at home still don't get tested. Estimates are as high as 10% (from a proportion of the 10,000 unaccounted for excess deaths to date).What I meant by the numbers being real are they are the average current daily official government reported covid deaths (which were always lower than the ONS covid excess deaths) and the average daily official government reported cases from 3 weeks back.
The numbers are way larger than any likely false negative effect.
It’s really hard with the kids impacts. Things we know (seem to be consensus) are that kids can have the virus - and a significant percentage can get it. Mortality/serious illness in kids is very low. But the big questions are how good are kids at transmitting it (a) between each other and (b) to adults.
Sure I'm thumping a familiar tub, but pubs should never have opened. When in contact with others everyone needs to be cautious and sensible about exposure, and in a pub with loads of alcohol it's never going to happen, when after 6 pints you have your "youremybestmatemate" in a headlock hug. Yet gyms and swimming pools remained closed.This should probably be in the "balls to" thread, but pretty damning of the behavior of Aberdeen footballers, whose formal apology reads like it was written by Domininc C.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53701572
My opinion is very different. Keep all the pubs etc open, open the gyms, send all the kids back to school and stop people meeting in houses. Eliminates something there appears to be an issue with that has no positive effect on the economy and allows everything that helps the economy to get on with it. Reduces the r number by the .3 someone suggests we need to open the schools.
Granted it may not be of the same scale and isn't in the same sector.
To TomTom: having done two tests myself, I think a big spanner in the works of school testing would be just how nasty the current test is. I found the throat swabs made me gag violently and the nose swabs to be quite painful.
Quote from: gme on August 10, 2020, 04:00:24 pmMy opinion is very different. Keep all the pubs etc open, open the gyms, send all the kids back to school and stop people meeting in houses. Eliminates something there appears to be an issue with that has no positive effect on the economy and allows everything that helps the economy to get on with it. Reduces the r number by the .3 someone suggests we need to open the schools.I try and avoid this topic currently, but I am amazed you think this is feasible. Not saying it won't happen, but I don't really buy the idea that transmission is happening wholesale in peoples living rooms and not in a crowded pub! It defies all logic. I would close whatever is needed to get schools open in September, but god only knows how its going to work.