Hi BrutusYea I don’t get that either, but Macron has threatened action against folk that ignore his directives. He has said individual sport is ok, so could cycle to the boulders, if I was fit enough 😉
Quote from: tomtom on March 16, 2020, 05:55:13 pmGiven the latest announcement - avoid all unnecessary social contact - then that’s it for climbing walls. I feel really sorry for wall owners and those working for them. Can’t see them being open tomorrow.I disagree. I think in the absence of a clear government directive to shut many of them will stay open and just preach 'wash hands, cardless payments, stay away if feeling unwell' etc. Business is business at the end of the day.I really hope I'm proved wrong.
Given the latest announcement - avoid all unnecessary social contact - then that’s it for climbing walls. I feel really sorry for wall owners and those working for them. Can’t see them being open tomorrow.
Quote from: 205Chris on March 16, 2020, 07:03:37 pmQuote from: tomtom on March 16, 2020, 05:55:13 pmGiven the latest announcement - avoid all unnecessary social contact - then that’s it for climbing walls. I feel really sorry for wall owners and those working for them. Can’t see them being open tomorrow.I disagree. I think in the absence of a clear government directive to shut many of them will stay open and just preach 'wash hands, cardless payments, stay away if feeling unwell' etc. Business is business at the end of the day.I really hope I'm proved wrong.All TCA centres are shut as of now. Difficult for them but probably the right call. Until this afternoon flashpoint in Bristol were still going ahead with a comp tomorrow! Thankfully that's cancelled now, but they're still open.
Quote from: Andy W on March 16, 2020, 09:01:01 pmHere in France, Macron although making sweeping initiatives has still left many questions. I guess understandable in such unprecedented times. However I can still go bouldering as long as I’m alone, which is what I usually do anyhow 🙂Edit, my wife says I’m wrong, because driving to the bouldering is ‘making an unnecessary journey’. Thank god for my woodie.
Here in France, Macron although making sweeping initiatives has still left many questions. I guess understandable in such unprecedented times. However I can still go bouldering as long as I’m alone, which is what I usually do anyhow 🙂
Quote from: Andy W on March 16, 2020, 09:04:18 pmQuote from: Andy W on March 16, 2020, 09:01:01 pmHere in France, Macron although making sweeping initiatives has still left many questions. I guess understandable in such unprecedented times. However I can still go bouldering as long as I’m alone, which is what I usually do anyhow 🙂Edit, my wife says I’m wrong, because driving to the bouldering is ‘making an unnecessary journey’. Thank god for my woodie.Yes, you are quite wrong. What more, the President has given the police almost unlimited power to enforce this: at least that was how we interpreted the speech.Here is a summary of the situation in France to the best of my understanding that I just wrote:Starting tomorrow at noon, all travel except travelling alone for work or for shopping essentials is forbidden. Meeting friends and family is not allowed. The government will be responsible for the details, but the president warns that ”any violation of these rules will be sanctioned.” Taking a breather/jog is allowed. Alone.The borders to non-Schengen countries are closed.No business, no matter how small, is allowed to go bust: for this the president has pledged 300 billion in credits. Rent, electricity, water and gas-bills will be suspended for small and medium enterprises in difficulties. All workers are guaranteed pay.The resources of the country will be geared to the medical staff. A system of child care for medical workers will be put in place, and they can requisition hotels or taxis at the government's expense.
Trying to look on the bright side of this:1. If you had to dispassionately pick a killer pandemic, this one is probably the one you would choose in terms of the mortality demographics.2. Hopefully the global nature of the pandemic will result in increased international co-operation.3. If 2. is correct, a reversal of isolationist, nationalist politics.4. A realisation of the need to invest heavily in social healthcare and social support mechanisms.5. A restructuring of the economy away from carbon intensive use.It would be nice to think that we could look back on it as a positive turning point.
Kids in school are a much lower risk than adults mingling, surely that's clear to everyone by now.
Hi BrutusYea I don’t get that either, but Macron has threatened action against folk that ignore his directives. He has said individual sport is ok, so could cycle to the boulders, if I was fit enough
Quote from: Andy W on March 16, 2020, 09:21:00 pmHi BrutusYea I don’t get that either, but Macron has threatened action against folk that ignore his directives. He has said individual sport is ok, so could cycle to the boulders, if I was fit enough So you are allowed to walk to the boulders but not to drive? I don't see how that makes much sense but what have you. At least there is a zone, albeit tiny, walking distance from where we're at. bleau.info/moignyTbh I don’t really know what’s alllowed.Guess I'll work on the 7C+ for the next two weeks
A longer post - on a different point. I've had a few conversations and been mulling the following over the last few days....We don't know how this is all going to pan out at the moment (for the better or for the worse) - but I hope some positives will come from this too. These include:1. Changing the 9-5 in the office work ethic - and making homeworking and remote working more the norm than the exception. I hope and suspect that many changes in the workplace that are happening right now because of CV19 will lead to a long lasting shift in this. Of course many jobs require a workplace - but many in our largely service driven economy do not - and I hope this can show that people can carry on doing whatever spreadsheet shuffling they may do equally as well at home as at work. 2. Putting a dent in our short haul flight addiction. Maybe less optimism for this - folk may well return to business as usual once this changes. But - with the travel restrictions and downturn in flying I hope people start to realise that they don't need to have five europe mini breaks a year and can have just as relaxing/equivalent break closer to home (with less emissions required...). There are lots of positives in terms of widening peoples perspectives and breaking down cultural barriers of going to lots of places - but I can't help but think we do too much of it. 3. A slower pace of life. Already (from my observations) the roads and public transport are noticably quieter... Not so much self quarantine, but people making concious decisions to go out less, spending more time at home etc.. are these necessarily bad things? (thuogh it may just lead to Netflix dependancy issues :D )4. If we do less - will we consume less - and leading to a wider point does this mean less of an emphasis on the growth growth growth economic model that the world seems to have subscribed to? I doubt CV19 will stop this - but maybe putting a dent in it and slowing things down globally isnt such a bad thing... (I await someone with stocks and shares pension/isa/savings to come back at me otherwise with this..)Anyway - just some general musings about how it may change the world we live in - possibly in some positive ways. None of the above is evidence based