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#4325 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
July 31, 2021, 11:05:14 pm
On the subject of neurodiversity, I thought this book was brilliant:
https://www.waterstones.com/book/a-kind-of-spark/elle-mcnicoll/9781913311223

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#4326 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 01, 2021, 09:16:17 am
Interesting that having gone on about our amazing vaccine rollout for ages, we're now dropping behind:

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/spain-covid-vaccine-uk-roll-out-overtake-vaccination-approach-explained-1127933

If I remember correctly,  Germany is also nearly there.

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#4327 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 01, 2021, 10:36:15 am
Interesting that having gone on about our amazing vaccine rollout for ages, we're now dropping behind:

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/spain-covid-vaccine-uk-roll-out-overtake-vaccination-approach-explained-1127933

If I remember correctly,  Germany is also nearly there.

Denmark is significantly closer. 4% more of pop with at least one shot and within one percentage point for fully vaccinated - with about another 1% becoming fully vaccinated every day it will only take a day or two.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2021, 10:44:23 am by andy popp »

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#4328 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 14, 2021, 10:55:27 am
Turns out that in private, the HART Group (Mike Yeadon's rebranded campaign) are the kind of lovely people who like to fantasize about nurses "ending up hanging on the end of a noose" for giving vaccines:

https://twitter.com/_johnbye/status/1421397442642259978
https://twitter.com/KatyMcconkey/status/1425920688767094792

Yeadon thinks people on SAGE who propose vaccinating children "need shooting":

https://twitter.com/_johnbye/status/1421397302468567040

Naturally, they're full Wakefield re: autism:

https://twitter.com/_johnbye/status/1424060701488959495

They share videos made by folks from "America's Frontline Doctors" (yes, the "demon sperm" crowd) and Operation Rescue (the anti-abortion terrorist group, who've decided they're also against Covid vaccines, very "pro-life):

https://twitter.com/_johnbye/status/1424060766198632451
https://twitter.com/_johnbye/status/1424060837514420226

They discuss how to "seed" misinformation about vaccines causing Covid:

https://twitter.com/stuartjdneil/status/1425719801213816833

And after research shows that people wear masks because they want to be be fair to others and prevent harm, they talk about ... how to change that:

https://twitter.com/KatyMcconkey/status/1425946512643792896

I have sympathy for people who are vaccine-hesitant because they're trying to sort through conflicting information and work out what to trust. I am happy to go full research-nerd for anyone who's got questions and actually wants answers!

But everyone should know that behind the public mask of respectability and professionalism that Yeadon and co. try to maintain, they are the most poisonous of cranks and grifters, and they're responsible for shit like this:

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/i-am-worried-staff-badly-21273817

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#4329 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 14, 2021, 11:09:28 am
Christ ...

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#4330 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 14, 2021, 07:43:22 pm
Christ ...

Icke or Trump?

So let me get this right - the vaccine alters your DNA but it's also fixable by eating a pineapple, which I'm assuming alters your DNA back?

Power to the pineapple!

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#4331 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 14, 2021, 08:45:30 pm
Christ ...

Icke or Trump?


we had an interesting day last year when Gareth Icke came to Sheffield

  :slap:

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#4332 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 15, 2021, 10:10:26 am
Christ ...

Icke or Trump?

So let me get this right - the vaccine alters your DNA but it's also fixable by eating a pineapple, which I'm assuming alters your DNA back?

Power to the pineapple!

Wait, I think I missed the pineapple -- when did that come in?

I'm only familiar with pine needle tea, which is being marketed as a way for unvaccinated people to protect themselves against the evil spike proteins "shedding" from vaccinated people ...

(N.B. None of this is true. Virus "shedding" can only occur with live attenuated vaccines, such as the oral polio vaccine. It is physically impossible for the Covid vaccines to "shed" anything. This is all completely fucking imaginary. Also if you're afraid of spike proteins, the best way of avoiding them is getting vaccinated, because the number temporarily produced in response to the vaccine is miniscule compared to the deluge produced by getting actual Covid.)

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#4333 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 15, 2021, 10:53:30 am
On the subject of completely fucking imaginary, there's some top bantz on one of the sites mentioned in those tweets...

https://www.notonthebeeb.co.uk/post/dr-t-on-genocide

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I am sharing the following hypothesis urgently of how the Covid-19 experimental injections may be harming and killing in the hope that it may be able to help in some way to help stop this attempted mass genocide. I do not believe this is an accident and I will explain why

My hypothesis is that the experimental mRNA Covid-19 injections contain a magnetised nano particle attached to the mRNA which crosses the blood-brain barrier and is then attracted to the brain, particularly mid-line structures. I further hypothesise that two things aid this passage of the magnetised mRNA to the brain: local temperature effects from EMF radiation and from an artificial network such as from hydrogel.

Experimental injections! Mass genocide!! Magnetised nano particles!!! EMF radiation!!!!  :lol: :lol: :lol:



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#4334 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 15, 2021, 11:33:14 am
All so obvious in hindsight, how could we have been so stupid.  :slap:
This is really going to fuck up the MRI industry.

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#4335 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 15, 2021, 12:26:29 pm
Collecting the cream of the crop:

https://twitter.com/BadVaccineTakes
https://twitter.com/BadCOVID19Takes

(Because sometimes it's necessary to laugh so I don't implode with fury, because this shit is literally killing people.)

Re: the magnetism thing, I enjoy this piece, which is both funny and a fine bit of science education:

https://jamesheathers.medium.com/why-your-vaccinated-arm-isnt-magnetic-you-big-silly-goose-87d2a552d650

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#4336 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 15, 2021, 12:47:24 pm
All so obvious in hindsight, how could we have been so stupid.  :slap:
This is really going to fuck up the MRI industry.

I have seen various MRI technicians and patients on Twitter pointing out that if vaccines made people magnetic, they'd know by now, because it would be MESSY.

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#4337 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 15, 2021, 01:32:07 pm
Christ ...

Icke or Trump?

So let me get this right - the vaccine alters your DNA but it's also fixable by eating a pineapple, which I'm assuming alters your DNA back?

Power to the pineapple!

Wait, I think I missed the pineapple -- when did that come in?

I'm only familiar with pine needle tea, which is being marketed as a way for unvaccinated people to protect themselves against the evil spike proteins "shedding" from vaccinated people ...

(N.B. None of this is true. Virus "shedding" can only occur with live attenuated vaccines, such as the oral polio vaccine. It is physically impossible for the Covid vaccines to "shed" anything. This is all completely fucking imaginary. Also if you're afraid of spike proteins, the best way of avoiding them is getting vaccinated, because the number temporarily produced in response to the vaccine is miniscule compared to the deluge produced by getting actual Covid.)

Third link down in your post for the pineapple poster!

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#4338 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 15, 2021, 02:06:15 pm
Ah, found it -- it was some way down in the thread. Maybe my brain had shorted out after the coconut oil & Luciferian New World Order combo and that's why I forgot the pineapple ...

https://twitter.com/_johnbye/status/1424060886956843016

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#4339 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 20, 2021, 11:14:42 am
https://www.private-eye.co.uk/books/dr-hammonds-covid-casebook

Philip Hammond's new covid book based on his Private Eye columns. A great mix of good science, exposure of bad government decisions and mixed in with a strong dollop of compassion.

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#4340 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 20, 2021, 11:51:46 am
Interestingly I believe that in the gulags pine needles were used to creat vitamin supplements, and were the easiest form of work for the weakest prisoners. The pine needle supplements were later found to be pretty useless.
 :offtopic:

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#4342 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 23, 2021, 10:17:37 pm
Protesters against lockdown heckling journalists: https://inews.co.uk/news/anti-vax-protest-london-itn-studios-jon-snow-channel-4-presenter-1163510

They are so crashingly stupid,  they haven't realised that lockdown finished some time ago,  and Jon Snow has absolutely nothing to do with decisions on vaccination.  I have no compassion for density of this magnitude. 

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#4343 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 24, 2021, 10:16:59 am
As someone said in the comments, they're like zombies in a shopping mall.

https://twitter.com/Marsh4LL1/status/1429107423462187016?t=7vZehv6H_QKUtoO1-wZjLA&s=19

A few of them 'invaded' a covid vaccine centre. They're definitely getting braver, daring each other to be more rebellious - my partner's sister is right down the rabbit hole, we had a three hour argument/discussion on Friday and at one point she declared "if I could get to any of them, it wouldn't be Boris I'd stab, it'd be Blair, he's the worst of them".

She's almost 50, has led a privileged life and then 6 months ago she 'woke' to the fact the government are tossers.

The family despairs, she preaches at everyone.

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#4344 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 24, 2021, 12:35:59 pm
Some anecdotal evidence for someone...

My family of 4 (two kids 6 & 3), Father in Law, Sister in Law and her son (13) and daughter (31) had 1 week holiday together.
All adults double-jabbed, mix of Pfizer and AZ.

31YO had to test before returning to work, came back positive. We all then tested and everyone except myself (AZ) and S-i-L (also AZ) negative. The other adults (Pfizer) all positive and consequently symptomatic, our youngest did too.
PCR tests confirm all of these except our daughter is now clear.

So of our sample group, the AZ vaccine worked, the Pfizer didn't prevent infection. I was the most recently jab'd (3 weeks ago), the others were quite early as all NHS frontline or over 75.

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#4345 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 24, 2021, 01:22:54 pm
They're definitely getting braver, daring each other to be more rebellious

Also, escalating levels of violent rhetoric:

https://respectfulinsolence.com/2021/08/20/the-violent-rhetoric-of-the-antivaccine-movement-antimask-covid-19-update/

They are absolutely going to get people killed (er, directly, not just by getting people to refuse/delay vaccination).

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#4346 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 24, 2021, 10:57:57 pm
They're definitely getting braver, daring each other to be more rebellious

Also, escalating levels of violent rhetoric:

https://respectfulinsolence.com/2021/08/20/the-violent-rhetoric-of-the-antivaccine-movement-antimask-covid-19-update/

They are absolutely going to get people killed (er, directly, not just by getting people to refuse/delay vaccination).

I think it's a symptom of something which seems to be seeding in Western democracies of people needing something to protest against, perhaps best exemplified by the Qanon bullshit.  Qanon has absolutely nothing to do with reality,  total fantasy rubbish but lots of people apparently think it's worth protesting violently about. 

Anti vaxxer / lockdown protesters are no better, the ideas they propound don't withstand 5 seconds of logical thought. They've all been to a school of some sort and can't really all have been lobotomised,  there must be a sort of group suspension of disbelief which allows them to indulge in this crap.

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#4347 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 24, 2021, 11:17:17 pm
They're definitely getting braver, daring each other to be more rebellious

Also, escalating levels of violent rhetoric:

https://respectfulinsolence.com/2021/08/20/the-violent-rhetoric-of-the-antivaccine-movement-antimask-covid-19-update/

They are absolutely going to get people killed (er, directly, not just by getting people to refuse/delay vaccination).

I think it's a symptom of something which seems to be seeding in Western democracies of people needing something to protest against, perhaps best exemplified by the Qanon bullshit.  Qanon has absolutely nothing to do with reality,  total fantasy rubbish but lots of people apparently think it's worth protesting violently about. 

Anti vaxxer / lockdown protesters are no better, the ideas they propound don't withstand 5 seconds of logical thought. They've all been to a school of some sort and can't really all have been lobotomised,  there must be a sort of group suspension of disbelief which allows them to indulge in this crap.

SOS.

Same Old Shit, different day.

The same people, or at least different people, who are virtually indistinguishable from these people, except by virtue of passing fashion and styling; have been with us since at least the start of the industrial age.

Look at some of Victor Hugo’s characters. Dilettantes looking for a cause and willing to hold incredible degrees of cognitive dissonance in support of their chosen crusade.

You’ll find them following pop stars and celebrities too, Football teams and Incel forums all draw them in.

A cynic might note that about half the population are, necessarily, below average intelligence; however you measure it…

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#4348 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 25, 2021, 08:46:21 am
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     A cynic might note that about half the population are, necessarily, below average intelligence; however you measure it…   

Depends what you mean by average, and assumes everyone doesnt have identical intelligence :sorry:

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#4349 Re: Coronavirus Covid-19
August 25, 2021, 09:08:28 am
had a quick chat with somebody in Taiwan this morning and they said things were going well, they had no local case for 3 weeks and people are still wearing masks in public. vs stockport's estimaged 2000 current cases (Zoe App) and mask wearers rapidly becoming the minority.

 

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