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#2175 Re: Politics 2020
July 05, 2022, 08:43:28 pm
Or: they only believe they have a career with Johnson’s patronage. Without him, they will be nowhere.

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#2176 Re: Politics 2020
July 05, 2022, 09:27:46 pm
Certainly people like Dorries, she's got no chance in another government. But others still could have hope, if they don't fully sink with this ship.

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#2177 Re: Politics 2020
July 05, 2022, 10:08:19 pm
They wouldn't have wanted to chuck Pincher under a bus because it'll likely lead to a byelection which they may well lose.

I struggle to see Johnson lasting much longer now,  although I still don't think he'd actually resign.

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#2178 Re: Politics 2020
July 05, 2022, 10:18:16 pm
They wouldn't have wanted to chuck Pincher under a bus because it'll likely lead to a byelection which they may well lose.

I'd say losing a by-election is the lesser evil against losing your Chancellor and another front bench minister, but then they didn't know that Sunak and Javid would resign.

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#2179 Re: Politics 2020
July 05, 2022, 10:50:01 pm
Given how he shrugged off the other byelection results, I'd say he wouldn't care at all about losing that. Can use the same excuses again.

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#2180 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 07:27:47 am
Frankly I feel sorry for Cameron Norrie, wins a legendary match at Wimbledon to reach the semis and all the news is about politics.

I'm sure Johnson will limp on for a while and possibly call a snap election if he thinks the 1922 are about to kick him out

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#2181 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 08:39:34 am
Excruciating interview with Zahawi on PM this morning (around about 8:10 if you want to listen on Sounds).

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#2182 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 08:53:43 am
Excruciating interview with Zahawi on PM this morning (around about 8:10 if you want to listen on Sounds).

It was great wasn't it, Nick Robinson giving him the news of further resignations live on air. And yet he continued to defend the indefensible.

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#2183 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 08:57:38 am
Or: they only believe they have a career with Johnson’s patronage. Without him, they will be nowhere.

Definitely this, but also I think there's a strong element of "if not BoJo - then who"?

There's no strong contenders - and they're possibly stuck in "better the c*nt you know" situation.

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#2184 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 09:12:33 am
Excruciating interview with Zahawi on PM this morning (around about 8:10 if you want to listen on Sounds).

It was great wasn't it, Nick Robinson giving him the news of further resignations live on air. And yet he continued to defend the indefensible.

And the bit where he got him to talk about migrating to the UK after fleeing Saddam, getting him to say this is the best country in the world, making him well up with emotion, and then telling him they'd trashed the country's reputation. I screamed; it's not every day you hear someone get murdered on the radio.

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#2185 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 09:17:14 am
Jeez, BITD Spitting Image wouldn't be able to make fresh puppets fast enough.....

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#2186 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 09:39:42 am
Jeez, BITD Spitting Image wouldn't be able to make fresh puppets fast enough.....

Johnson as a limpet desperately clinging to the door of number ten while everyone else tries to prise him off?

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#2187 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 09:53:04 am
The Guardian liveblog has the header "Boris Johnson fighting for future as children’s minister Will Quince becomes latest senior Tory to resign – live"; in my bleary under-caffeinated morning state I initially misread it as saying that Boris Johnson's children had resigned, and for a micro-second that didn't seem implausible.

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#2188 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 10:43:08 am
Watch this resignation letters pile high Boris.

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#2189 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 01:23:03 pm
Sajid Javid's speech in the commons today was pretty cutting.

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#2190 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 02:47:05 pm
Clearly  emotional, given the muddled words, but it's well worth a listen. I think he is spot on about the issue around the repeated lies from No 10 and the dangers to his party of doing nothing.

« Last Edit: July 06, 2022, 02:56:50 pm by Offwidth »

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#2191 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 03:42:37 pm
I subscribe to some conservative substacks to get a sense of what is going on in Right Land.

Todays effort from the writer Ed West is a classic, jam-packed full of nonsense.


On Johnson’s “exotic” background: “It’s why the charges of racism never stuck; he has his faults, but racial prejudice isn’t one of them.” Okay, all those ethnic minority Brits complaining about his racism are just making it up.


“In fact he is almost more like an oriental potentate, a benevolent and cosmopolitan sultan, hampered by court intrigue and presiding over a crumbling empire.” Benevolent? What’s benevolent about psychopathic power seeking?


“A certain amount of sleaze and licence in a government is not a terrible thing; a bit of corruption can help get things done or built.” Try campaigning with “a bit corrupt” as a slogan next time…

“The only hint at who’s been in charge might be the visible increase in homelessness, the one tangible result of Tory rule.” And I guess if you are well off enough to avoid the NHS, never need to report a crime, live somewhere which manages a bit of litter picking after a decade of austerity, then it all looks pretty jolly. 


“I’d like Britain to be more like Denmark in that respect, egalitarian, safe and demographically stable.” Is demographically stable the new euphemism for keeping out the foreigners, or perhaps the wrong type of foreigners?

At the same time he bemoans the UK’s economic stagnation, but what the hell did they expect when they want “demographic stability” and can’t see the result of their own casual slashing of government spending, which was backed up by the original lie of the post-2010 Conservatives, ie that it was public spending that caused the financial crisis?


There’s a whole new generation out there who hate progressivism, who don’t want social norms dictated by dysfunctional, miserable people





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#2192 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 03:53:03 pm
Cognitive dissonance!? The idiot NI secretary was defending Boris after PMQs today,  literally saying you must beware removing a PM who was elected by the people when Boris became PM after the party did just that.

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#2193 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 04:38:46 pm
I reckon he's done. Either resigns today or a 1922 VONC chucks him. Either way yeah done.

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#2194 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 04:38:54 pm
BBC News has just reported that the very same NI Secretary is about to tell Johnson to resign!

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#2195 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 04:43:43 pm
And now more cabinet ministers following Gove's lead of denouncing from within. And the whips office briefing that they haven't got any MPs left to fill the vacancies.

He's fucked.


(Isn't it customary for the opposition to step in if you can't form a government? Someone wake up the Queen!)

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#2196 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 06:47:11 pm
Not sure if this should be in the DIY thread but does anyone have advice on how to remove wallpaper without damaging it? It was awfully expensive.

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#2198 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 07:08:19 pm
Excruciating interview with Zahawi on PM this morning (around about 8:10 if you want to listen on Sounds).

I enjoyed (?) listening to this earlier, then seeing Zahawi calling for resignation not 12 hours later!

To all the cabinet c*nts resigning and citing their conscience - where has your conscience been the past couple of years?

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#2199 Re: Politics 2020
July 06, 2022, 07:13:27 pm
I particularly enjoy the ones pretending that they've suddenly had an attack of conscience over something else, and it's an amazing coincidence that they decided to give a shit exactly when it looked like Johnson's on the way out and no sooner.

 

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