I’m sure lots of people who were canvassed probably did have a few choice words about Corbyn. And I don’t deny his personal ratings among key demographics was a big problem. But I reckon if questioned further on specifically why, the answers would more likely have been along the lines of terrorist sympathiser, woolly on Brexit, antisemitism, weak leader, pacifist, stroppy etc than a criticism of the policies.The policies when polled anonymously are popular and are much more in line with a mixed economy rather than being the sort of authoritarian socialism being bandied about by some critics.
I voted for Nandy but happy with Starmer. I was pretty confident Starmer would get in but want Nandy to get a big role so hoped support for her in this leadership race would facilitate that.
2 sides of the same coin TT it’s Mea Culpa for everyone surely? Time to move on.
Brutus, one of my issues with the Corbyn era was the undermining of decent policies by them being faced up to the media/public by MPs who are poor media performers. That was my issue with Burgeon and by extension, Corbyn. There seemed to be an inability to see people strengths and use them appropriately. I've no idea of Burgeon's abilities as an MP, nor as a policy maker/writer but my opinion of him is forever tainted by his inability to neither articulate a policies benefits nor argue for it when faced with criticism.It's not a case of gloating, and quite frankly the vocal members of the party on all sides have done themselves no favours with their media comments, but a frustration that we still have a Tory government, one filled with it's fair share of rogues (to put it politely) and incompetents, and have again missed the opportunity to change the path the country is taking.The recent crisis may well change the way the population feel, even the FT seems to be more pro nationalisation.....
My point is, whilst we may all wish to vent our frustrations, there are things such as the nationalisation, that you mention, that are way more important than continuously raking over the same old shit.
Quote from: galpinos on April 05, 2020, 08:52:04 amI was pretty confident Starmer would get in but want Nandy to get a big role so hoped support for her in this leadership race would facilitate that.Yes, I think Nandy should be a shadow minister
I was pretty confident Starmer would get in but want Nandy to get a big role so hoped support for her in this leadership race would facilitate that.
My guess would be that Labour will do a lot better than current assumptions in the upcoming election so Corbyn will probably still be in place. Alternatively the present polls will be right (ha! Chinny reckon emoji) and maybe you'll get your centrist leader of the opposition for 5 years while Johnson and the gang go mad.
let’s get some power
Quote from: BrutusTheBear on April 05, 2020, 09:49:57 amlet’s get some powerSorry, can't resist. I thought this wasn't important?
I’m out, not out of the party (which is no doubt what some would like)..but out of this thread.
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