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POPS?

I love to Pop but hate to dyno
7 (31.8%)
I love to Pop , but also like a dyno
7 (31.8%)
I love to pop but dynos are better
8 (36.4%)

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Voting closed: October 08, 2004, 12:05:04 am

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Big Frank

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POP!
October 08, 2004, 12:05:04 am
Personaly I think that a smooth swift pop for the top is more satisfying than a dyno.  Not sure why it just feels good to make a couple of moves and then pop.

I think the best pop is A Little Sparkle at Guisecliff, whats your best pop and why?

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#1 POP!
October 08, 2004, 12:09:51 am
do you mean slap?

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#2 POP!
October 08, 2004, 12:13:46 am
Quote from: "vivahate"
do you mean slap?


Well there is another can of worms, personaly I think there is slapping and there is popping. Often a pop for the top is a lot less subtle than a slap?

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#3 POP!
October 08, 2004, 02:30:03 am
to me a pop is 1 point of contact, a slap is 2/3 p.o.c., a dyno is no p.o.c..

Is this what you mean big frank?

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#4 POP!
October 08, 2004, 07:14:29 am
what a ridiculous poll :lol:

I reckon a slap can be one point of contact too, but it's where you lay one on for a sloper, etc - hence the "slap" sound. A pop is like a small but accurate, Bruce Lee style one inch punch affair imho....

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#5 POP!
October 08, 2004, 07:25:03 am
Quote from: "Bubba"
what a ridiculous poll :lol:

I reckon a slap can be one point of contact too, but it's where you lay one on for a sloper, etc - hence the "slap" sound. A pop is like a small but accurate, Bruce Lee style one inch punch affair imho....


Totaly ridiculous, but hey thats what a few bottles of wife beater does for you!

But the comparison to the 1" punch is good. :grab:

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#6 POP!
October 08, 2004, 09:32:22 am
Quote from: "T Nagler"
a dyno is no p.o.c


how do you land it then, without touching the rock?

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#7 POP!
October 08, 2004, 09:56:56 am
To my mind - a slap is associated with things starting to go a bit pete tong and your having to slap out of desperation. A pop is a far more calculated deliberate act.
the difference between a pop and a dyno is that the pop could be done static if you so wished (and were sufficiently honed) where as a dyno *cannot* be done static.

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#8 POP!
October 08, 2004, 10:13:47 am
Quote from: "T Nagler"
to me a pop is 1 point of contact, a slap is 2/3 p.o.c., a dyno is no p.o.c...


So that's what a pop is... another mystery solved (once I know all of the definitions,  mastering the actual moves will be trivial).  

On a related topic - is there a name for when you make two moves in quick succession with the same hand? - the second move generally being a desperate deadpoint lunge  made because your strength is waning and there is not enough time to sort your feet out  (an example being Sharma on Realization in the Dosage video when a few moves after the crux he "pops" for a big jug).

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#9 POP!
October 08, 2004, 10:29:20 am
Going again.

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#10 POP!
October 08, 2004, 11:16:03 am
as most of the hand moves i do seem to require speed :wink: i would tend to call this climbing.although observer's might suggest other names for what i'm doing.

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#11 POP!
October 08, 2004, 11:23:08 am
Quote from: "Big Frank"
Going again.


that's not very knarly sounding is it? ... "going again" is no use for awing folk with palm-sweating tales of  derring-do at  12 ft off the deck  :) .  I want a dramatic word... one that paints a picture (preferably one with motion blurring effects).   I will have to make up my own name for this most "rad" of all moves (...err...."death-punt" anyone?!).

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#12 POP!
October 08, 2004, 11:25:47 am
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Quote from: "Big Frank"
Going again.


that's not very knarly sounding is it? ... "going again" is no use for awing folk with palm-sweating tales of  derring-do at  12 ft off the deck  :) .  I want a dramatic word... one that paints a picture (preferably one with motion blurring effects).   I will have to make up my own name for this most "rad" of all moves (...err...."death-punt" anyone?!).


There is the nudge or udge, but I think yours is a bit more than that. How about fudge? (sounds a bit gay though).

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#13 POP!
October 08, 2004, 11:38:26 am
There is the nudge or udge, but I think yours is a bit more than that. How about fudge? (sounds a bit gay though).[/quote]

hmmm yeah the move I have in mind is a kind of desperate, dead-point/ dyno udge.  Doesn't seem to be as ubiquitus as I thought  it was (must be because I am (a) weak and (b) apt to climb myself into trouble  :oops: ).   You're right about fudge though - saying went for a "fudge" in a time of trouble would sound a bit like a deathbed assertion of something long repressed!

Still, all of this is very off topic... will shut-up about it now.

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#14 POP!
October 08, 2004, 12:01:20 pm
i always felt the original word for this move was the best i.e.LUNGE :!:  :!:  :!:

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#15 POP!
October 08, 2004, 05:47:00 pm
Had a bit of a discussion on this in ireland - we thought 'Astral Gliding' was quite apt?

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#16 POP!
October 10, 2004, 01:40:10 am
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Quote from: "T Nagler"
a dyno is no p.o.c


how do you land it then, without touching the rock?


ok ok, no points of contact at some point during the move, you can land any of these with as many points of contact as you want! (have to re-emphasise that this is my only how I see things)

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#17 POP!
October 11, 2004, 02:09:48 pm
This was a classic POP for the top yesterday. Most punters from here reach through to the top with thier right, I just POPED with my left. It felt really good.



I think where POPing differs from dynos is that a Dyno is more set up, a pop you find yourself in a position where the POP is the next move.

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#18 POP!
October 12, 2004, 09:59:29 pm
That slight groove with the boss over the lip left of the big dyno at the roaches lower tier boulders.  undercut, stand up, span and classic pop over the lip to the boss.

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#19 POP!
October 13, 2004, 06:37:37 am
I'm with you there clm, good problem that

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#20 POP!
October 16, 2004, 10:09:36 am
good photo that big frank. rock looks good, where it be?

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#21 POP!
October 16, 2004, 10:14:19 am
It's Slipstones - Sulky Little Boys is the arete to the left.

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#22 POP!
October 18, 2004, 07:35:01 am
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It's Slipstones - Sulky Little Boys is the arete to the left.


And thats not fog in the background it's smoke!

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#23 POP!
October 18, 2004, 07:59:33 am
Quote from: "Big Frank"
This was a classic POP for the top yesterday. Most punters from here reach through to the top with thier right, I just POPED with my left. It felt really good.

I think where POPing differs from dynos is that a Dyno is more set up, a pop you find yourself in a position where the POP is the next move.


Surely the words you are looking for are POPPED and POPPING? Poping sounds like some bizarre sexual act involving religious leaders.

 

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