[edit: I'm a size 10.5/11 depending on the model]
The cheap Simond shoes are absolutely fine. Starting at £40 they have Vibram rubber (at least on the most important parts), and I wouldn't get any of their shoes that doesn't have Vibram.Since routesetters don't like to change into proper climbing shoes and do most of their setting in approach shoes most problems use big boxes for feet anyway — so there is no reason whatsoever to use good shoes indoor. I stopped using good shoes indoors years ago. As long as there is some decent rubber under the toes there is no difference at all between differnt climbing shoes.IMHO, YMMV and all that.
Climbing shoes need to fit pretty snug to work well. What matters most is whether they fit your foot well; you’ll need to try them on to discover. Even different models within a brand can have radically different lasts.Personally, I’d go cheap-but-okay first time; after that you’ll know better what suits you. They’ll wear out soon enough anyway.But those are decent shoes, yes.
Quote from: jwi on July 26, 2019, 04:11:48 pmThe cheap Simond shoes are absolutely fine. Starting at £40 they have Vibram rubber (at least on the most important parts), and I wouldn't get any of their shoes that doesn't have Vibram.Since routesetters don't like to change into proper climbing shoes and do most of their setting in approach shoes most problems use big boxes for feet anyway — so there is no reason whatsoever to use good shoes indoor. I stopped using good shoes indoors years ago. As long as there is some decent rubber under the toes there is no difference at all between differnt climbing shoes.IMHO, YMMV and all that.do you think it's worth the extra 20 pounds-ish for this one? https://www.alpinetrek.co.uk/la-sportiva-tarantula-climbing-shoes/?aid=873a5b57dc8ddb02a4b2623f3cac3e2f&pid=10004&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyerpBRD9ARIsAH-ITn_QuBa9yrN0L_tGnQsjJQhOQgSAlUxUmtRV0knvV2r79nnfD5pLqwQaAvtTEALw_wcB&wt_mc=uk.pla.google_uk.393201547.25885630867.104604048787