Just because the existing bolts are in doesn't mean they are in the right place IMHO. Take Consenting for example. the 3rd bolt (in place since the 80's) is in a poor position and has been the cause of broken bones due to people decking. Should we consider this in the 'right' position just because its already there?
It isn't now since Ian Dunn fixed it! But the point stands.
Instead of coming up with some kind of general criteria would it not be be better to present your rationale to some combination of local climbers/active bolters/access advocates/climber who put up the route/people who have previously climbed it or who are currently trying it?
Just curious about an extra bolt purely placed for dogging that is probably not going to get clipped on lead
Quote from: shark on May 23, 2019, 08:47:01 amJust curious about an extra bolt purely placed for dogging that is probably not going to get clipped on leadWhen did the Bat Route one go in? I had naively assumed it was ancient as its very rusty. Off topic, but how famous/notorious was the Obsession runout? On a level with New Dawn, where its seen as an integral part of the route, or was it always seen as an irritant?
Far be it for me to encourage bolting but Abracadabseil have got a bunch of lightly used 12mm Couer Pulse that were returned and we don't know what to do with. Can also source new 8mm obvs.
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Like it! Planners often stipulate that if you take a tree out that you plant a replacement. Yes tidying up karma is possible but I don’t think that ethically that is sound