[shark]

The BMC Peak Area Meeting will take place at The Maynard in Grindleford on Wednesday 21 November, starting at 7.30pm (food from 6.30pm).

BMC Strategic Planning process 2018-2020
The meeting will include discussion of a framework for developing the BMC’s strategic planning process whilst evaluating and implementing the remaining recommendations made by the Organisational Review Group – see attached information paper.

Organisational Development Group Update

The Organisational Development Group (ODG) has published an update, to enable members attending the meeting to discuss the group’s work and provide feedback for Area Reps to take to the December National Council meeting.
READ: Organisational Development Group Update: November 2018

Area AGM elections

The November meeting is also the Area AGM and will include elections for various volunteer roles.

Annual Quiz
It just wouldn’t be the end of year meeting without the annual quiz. Rumour has it that this year’s quiz will include a general knowledge round, so brush up on your soap operas!

All are welcome; food will be provided by the BMC, available from 6.30pm.

Copies of last minutes and other documents can be found The BMC Peak Area Meeting will take place at The Maynard in Grindleford on Wednesday 21 November, starting at 7.30pm (food from 6.30pm).
Come to our next gathering of Peak District climbers and walkers and get involved in the BMC.


Area meetings are run by volunteers and provide an opportunity for you to discuss issues and influence decisions affecting climbers and walkers locally and nationally.

BMC Strategic Planning process 2018-2020
The meeting will include discussion of a framework for developing the BMC’s strategic planning process whilst evaluating and implementing the remaining recommendations made by the Organisational Review Group – see attached information paper.

Organisational Development Group Update
The Organisational Development Group (ODG) has published an update, to enable members attending the meeting to discuss the group’s work and provide feedback for Area Reps to take to the December National Council meeting.
READ: Organisational Development Group Update: November 2018

Area AGM elections
The November meeting is also the Area AGM and will include elections for various volunteer roles.

Annual Quiz
It just wouldn’t be the end of year meeting without the annual quiz. Rumour has it that this year’s quiz will include a general knowledge round, so brush up on your soap operas!

All are welcome; food will be provided by the BMC, available from 6.30pm.

Copies of last minutes and other documents including Peak Area newsletter can be found here

[cheque]

Cool quiz as ever, particularly the musical round. 

In the absence of many of the members of what's normally described as "the UKB Team", a squad including but not limited to Mark20, Bolehillbilly, Tb, HighRepute, Reeve,  205Chris & myself won. I was fucking psyched to be able to pluck the Gogarth coffee table book that I'd been eyeing all night from the prize stack.

I'm not sure if Kim, Ellie or Toby are on here. Hopefully one of them is and will post the slides!

[Will Hunt]

Please can we have the quiz? It's the highlight of the UKB year.

[Offwidth]

Most embarrassing question outcome ever: Lynn and I both failed to recognise our own new route (albeit disguised by a retroclaim description of just the first half of the line from UKC logbooks). Otherwise fab fun despite the missing mimes.

For reference Oi Grimer! is a very nice E1 5b on the Grimoire block (hence the name) that we did in 2 pitches. The first pitch was, totally weirdly retro claimed as 'Who's Line is it Anyway?' by some dudes unaware we had cleaned and climbed it. There were rumours of a new scratch on our passion wagon (but we couldn't tell amongst all the others). Peak photographic regular Dazed Stimulant witnessed us cleaning the holds  so we had to really push it out beyond our normal limits of stretch (no ! the FA, not the turd at the base.... that was found there later). Filmmaker A Lister Leek didn't even reply to our query about a film of the ascent and subsequent events... this really depressed us. People just don't take new route efforts seriously these days.

Go climb it folks. Top bit might need a light brush first.

[Fiend]

Good effort cheque - hell of a prize! And good effort Offwidth

[user deactivated]

Cool quiz as ever, particularly the musical round. 

In the absence of many of the members of what's normally described as "the UKB Team", a squad including but not limited to Mark20, Bolehillbilly, Tb, HighRepute, Reeve,  205Chris & myself won. I was fucking psyched to be able to pluck the Gogarth coffee table book that I'd been eyeing all night from the prize stack.

I'm not sure if Kim, Ellie or Toby are on here. Hopefully one of them is and will post the slides!

Nice one Mike, an encyclopaedia of peak lime and grit knowledge there

[Kim]

OK, hopefully this will work for starters...it might take me a bit to figure out how best to put up Toby's musical extravaganza.

Here's the on-the-table questions:

Crag wildlife:



Peak Paths

[Neil F]

3 High Tor

4 Stoney

8 Dovedale?

1 Froggatt?

5 Black Rocks?

[bolehillbilly]

I knew the Black Rocks one but was puzzled by Oyster, just realised it was an obscure new boulder problem on the upper blocks (Docker's Oyster) which I did over the summer.

[Kim]

3 High Tor

4 Stoney

8 Dovedale?

1 Froggatt?

5 Black Rocks?

5/5 Neil 

[Kim]

Link to Google slideshow of full quiz. You'll have to skip the music slides as I've not had a chance to edit in the relevant tracks.

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1PoMs52WBDl8rmBWA4FuUnLuAbrN8UTv10-8kxX9d4rk/edit?usp=drivesdk

[Will Hunt]

Very nice. I did hopelessly. Can we have the answers, please?

[Neil F]

No - not yet!

I’d like to try it, but was waiting for the usual UKB quiz massiv to pitch in, like they have in previous years.

Go on Will.  You kick things off....

[Will Hunt]

Ok ok. Haven't got Spotify so can't do the music ones.

1. The Stranglers

2. True Grit

3.

4. 86?

11. Careless Torque?

13. Master's Edge. Airlie?

14. Mina

15. Lucy Creamer. Slab and Crack? Or the other one?

16. Lynn Robinson, Oi Grimer at Cratcliffe

17. Suicide Wall. To my shame I can't remember the name of the lady, only that she was Peter Harding's girlfriend.

20. The Link?

29. 3rd Rock

[Stabbsy]

3. Froggatt (Renegade Master), not sure on the artist.
7. Peak Cavern?
8. Crescent Arete
9. Burbage North (Long Tall Sally), Baslow (Little Richard)
10. Either 96 or 97 based on when I started buying OTE, I'll go with 96.
11. Mina - Careless Torque.
12. Rachel Farmer - Let The Tribe Increase
13. Airlie - Masters. Was the controversy something about a crash mat from the Foundry?
14. Ruth Jenkins - Zeke.
17. Suicide Wall - Veronica Lee
18. Mrs TB, Rachel Briggs
20. Nectar

[Stabbsy]

Peak Paths

1. Longdendale Trail
2. Sheffield Country Way/Sheffield Way?
9. Trans Pennine Trail
10. Pennine Way

[Nutty]

Peak Paths

1. Longdendale Trail
2. Sheffield Country Way/Sheffield Way?
9. Trans Pennine Trail
10. Pennine Way

4. Limestone Way
5. Monsal Trail

[highrepute]

Ok ok. Haven't got Spotify so can't do the music ones.

1. The Stranglers - 

2. True Grit - 

3.

4. 86?

11. Careless Torque?  but can you name the climber

13. Master's Edge. Airlie?  but what was controversial?

14. Mina

15. Lucy Creamer. Slab and Crack? Or the other one?

16. Lynn Robinson, Oi Grimer at Cratcliffe  on the FA but I'm not sure about the route name

17. Suicide Wall. To my shame I can't remember the name of the lady, only that she was Peter Harding's girlfriend.  can anyone get the name?

20. The Link? 

29. 3rd Rock 

I was there so I'll attempt to indicate what is correct - but i can't remember everything

[highrepute]

3. Froggatt (Renegade Master), not sure on the artist.
7. Peak Cavern?
8. Crescent Arete
9. Burbage North (Long Tall Sally), Baslow (Little Richard)
10. Either 96 or 97 based on when I started buying OTE, I'll go with 96. - sorry I can't remember
11. Mina - Careless Torque.
12. Rachel Farmer - Let The Tribe Increase - good knowledge - not many got the route
13. Airlie - Masters. Was the controversy something about a crash mat from the Foundry? close on the controversy
14. Ruth Jenkins - Zeke.
17. Suicide Wall - Veronica Lee
18. Mrs TB, Rachel Briggs
20. Nectar :great:i think that's right

[highrepute]

1. Longdendale Trail 
2. Sheffield Country Way/Sheffield Way? 
9. Trans Pennine Trail 
10. Pennine Way 

[highrepute]

4. Limestone Way 
5. Monsal Trail 

[slab_happy]

Re: 13 -- wasn't it a mattress used to protect the start?

[Fiend]

I knew the Black Rocks one but was puzzled by Oyster, just realised it was an obscure new boulder problem on the upper blocks (Docker's Oyster) which I did over the summer.

I suspect, without looking, 90% of these are defined by obscure new boulder problems by Bonjoy and/or El Mocho...

[highrepute]

Re: 13 -- wasn't it a mattress used to protect the start? 

There was also some unintentional yo-yoing

There's a great article by Arlie where you can learn about the whole event on - here page 50

[SamT]

Been trying not to look as I scrolled, so these are my honest answers:

1 - ?
2 - On Peak Rock
3 - Froggatt - Renegade Master, Cant remember who it was by
4 - 86?
5 - God knows? C sharp?
6 - dont know the tune
7 - Peak Cavern aka the Devils Arse
8 - Crescent arete as a guess?? (it has to be the plantation section of the film non?). Waterfall -  Atlantic Ocean
9 - Burbage- Long tall sally, problem must be Little Richard, dont know which crag - Burb South??
10 - 1993
11 - Mina on Careless Torque, ,
12 - Rachel Farmer on Let the Tribe increase
13 - Airlie on Masters - She used a matress as a bouldering mat.
14 - Ruth Jenkins on The Sissy?
15 - Lucy Creamer on Slab and Crack
16 -
17 - That route Cratcliffe, Cant remember the female asenctionist but featured on Hard Grit vintage section.
18 - ?? Maddy?
19 - Dont know route, two females Claudia Dunn and Gill (Kent)
20 - Usurper?
21 - Windy Knoll
22 -
23 - Ned?
24 - Alderly Edge
25 - Deliverance?
26 - ??
27 - ??
28 - Kinder Scout
29 - Blox??
30 - Russett Well, Ebbing and flowing well, Pooles Cavern, Peak Cavern, Chatsworth, Mam Tor, Eldon Hole

[SamT]

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[SamT]

What what does connect Green Crack, The Tippler, Tower Face, The Strangler, Topaz?

Been on UKC and cant find an obv connection with the first ascentionists.

[Stu Littlefair]

Thinking literally, the stanage girdle traverse?

[SamT]

 

[nai]

Are they all Ring Ouzel nest sites?

[SamT]

Possibly, but Topaz and Green Crack are next to each other,  Strangler and Tower Face are next to each other, which leaves Tippler as an odd route on its own.

[SamT]

14 - Ruth Jenkins on The Sissy?  -

Doh - I nearly put Zeke but thought it might be a trick.

20 - Usurper?

Durrhh - its not even at stanage,

[SamT]

Thinking literally, the stanage girdle traverse?

I the light of day...that's actually a perfectly good answer and I would insist on a point if I'd put it.

[SA Chris]

Thinking literally, the stanage girdle traverse?

Thinking laterally you mean.

[SamT]

Thinking literally, the stanage girdle traverse?

Thinking laterally you mean.

Brilliant 
(isnt there another thread for this?)

[highrepute]

Thinking literally, the stanage girdle traverse?

Thinking laterally you mean.

Brilliant 
(isnt there another thread for this?)

Ring Ouzel nesting sites from over the years. Full list on the back of the t-shirt if you have one. Well done Nai. In was obvious in the quiz because it was Kim's question and he said something about it being to do with the fa etc

[highrepute]

Been trying not to look as I scrolled, so these are my honest answers:

1 - ?
2 - On Peak Rock
3 - Froggatt - Renegade Master, Cant remember who it was by
4 - 86?
5 - God knows? C sharp?
6 - dont know the tune
7 - Peak Cavern aka the Devils Arse 
8 - Crescent arete as a guess?? (it has to be the plantation section of the film non?). Waterfall -  Atlantic Ocean 
9 - Burbage- Long tall sally, problem must be Little Richard, dont know which crag - Burb South??
10 - 1993
11 - Mina on Careless Torque, , 
12 - Rachel Farmer on Let the Tribe increase
13 - Airlie on Masters - She used a matress as a bouldering mat. 
14 - Ruth Jenkins on The Sissy? - actually zeke
15 - Lucy Creamer on Slab and Crack
16 -
17 - That route Cratcliffe, Cant remember the female asenctionist but featured on Hard Grit vintage section.
18 - ?? Maddy?
19 - Dont know route, two females Claudia Dunn and Gill (Kent)  both name correct
20 - Usurper?
21 - Windy Knoll 
22 -
23 - Ned?
24 - Alderly Edge
25 - Deliverance?
26 - ??
27 - ??
28 - Kinder Scout
29 - Blox??
30 - Russett Well, Ebbing and flowing well, Pooles Cavern, Peak Cavern, Chatsworth, Mam Tor, Eldon Hole

  I can't remember all of these but some are right. Interesting factoid from Peter Judd is that it's believed the Ebbing and Flowing Well might not have existed. but there a few candidates that could be it.

[SamT]

Pretty sure it did exist - its labelled on the old maps. It was just on the left of the A623 down from the Wanted Inn, 

The hydrology was apparently cocked up when they built that lake by that house on the other side of the road.

I always assumed that the mechanism must be the same as that causes whirlpool rising to ebb and flow.  Some sort of siphoning effect.