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#725 Re: EU Referendum
March 24, 2019, 08:37:01 am
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So, no real change for you, then, Pete?

No. I’m in Spain now, and I expect I will be again before too long whatever happens..

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#726 Re: EU Referendum
March 24, 2019, 02:21:27 pm



 :o

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#727 Re: EU Referendum
March 24, 2019, 02:24:56 pm

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#728 Re: EU Referendum
March 24, 2019, 02:27:02 pm
Petition just breached 5 million!

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#729 Re: EU Referendum
March 24, 2019, 02:31:29 pm
Officially, according to the site themselves, the estimated error/fake/false margine is approximately 4% (I believe their metric is url based), so it probably is significant.

If ultimately meaningless.


I wish it wasn’t. I certainly signed.

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#730 Re: EU Referendum
March 24, 2019, 03:52:07 pm
Went on that march thing. Don't want to jump the gun, but I think it may have had more people than Nigel's ...

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#731 Re: EU Referendum
March 24, 2019, 05:01:35 pm
It is amazing how on the day 1 million marched in London - the BBC decided that to be balanced they reported on farages march. That at its peak when he was speaking in a pub car park had 137 attendees.

I think the really interesting thing is the spatial breakdown of the vote. MANY Tory areas have a very high proportion - and many trad labour ones (nE, s Wales) are very low.

I suspect the biggest impact may be MPs looking at what’s going on where they are based...

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#732 Re: EU Referendum
March 24, 2019, 06:45:37 pm
It’s 5.15 million.

But, May’s incredibly stubborn. Half the cabinet are die hard Brexiteers.  Don’t believe there will even be a debate, let alone a second ref and as for simple revocation?


Yeah, right.

Nevertheless, it seriously undermines the “will of the people” argument. It guarantees this will continue to divide the nation for years to come, regardless of the outcome of this process.



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#733 Re: EU Referendum
March 24, 2019, 07:24:32 pm
It’s 5.15 million.


my oldest child turned 18 after the referendum

she, and her friends, have been trying to have a say - their main issue is the people who voted leave who have since died


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#734 Re: EU Referendum
March 24, 2019, 08:00:25 pm
My eldst is 13.

I mighthave already related this, somewhere above, but she turns 14 in August.

She’s entitled to adopt Romanian citizenship at 14, without my consent, by Romanian law and then hold dual nationality until she turns 18, when (as I understand it) she must choose.

She told me she’s going to do so. She’s arranging with her Grandmother to travel out for her birthday and collect her ID card and Passport.
I had no say in it.

She said she is very anti-Brexit. Actually, she was more assertive than that, not complimentary of the “Baby boomers” in general and said she wanted a bailout option that prserved her EU citizenship.


I know it might seem the obvious conclusion that I have influenced and encouraged that position, but Politics is an absolutely taboo subject in this house (hence my avid discussion here, my only outlet).

For reference, whilst they debrided her scalded foot, for the second time, late Thursday night; she recited Pi to 30 decimal places, to distract herself from the pain.
Not sure if myself or the Consultant was the more shocked.

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#735 Re: EU Referendum
March 24, 2019, 08:04:26 pm
Surprised she couldn't get to 50, yeah?

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#736 Re: EU Referendum
March 24, 2019, 08:19:17 pm
Surprised she couldn't get to 50, yeah?

Probably. Biggest Geek I ever met.

This is worth a read:

https://www.ft.com/content/5f3df8bc-4c03-11e9-bde6-79eaea5acb64

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#737 Re: EU Referendum
March 24, 2019, 09:01:38 pm
Surprised she couldn't get to 50, yeah?

Probably. Biggest Geek I ever met.

This is worth a read:

https://www.ft.com/content/5f3df8bc-4c03-11e9-bde6-79eaea5acb64

Copy and paste for us the wrong side of the paywall if you have a mo please?

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#738 Re: EU Referendum
March 24, 2019, 09:09:57 pm
Surprised she couldn't get to 50, yeah?

Probably. Biggest Geek I ever met.

This is worth a read:

https://www.ft.com/content/5f3df8bc-4c03-11e9-bde6-79eaea5acb64

Copy and paste for us the wrong side of the paywall if you have a mo please?

Actually it was free to read, when I read it, not anymore. Sorry. I don’t subscribe either, but usually get a few articles per month free through FB.

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#739 Re: EU Referendum
March 25, 2019, 09:53:05 am
My eldst is 13.

She told me she’s going to do so. She’s arranging with her Grandmother to travel out for her birthday and collect her ID card and Passport.
I had no say in it.

Do you oppose this? If she has any interest in an education or career in science or tech, which doesn't seem out of the question from the pi anecdote, then this is exactly the correct decision.

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#740 Re: EU Referendum
March 25, 2019, 10:19:24 am
My eldst is 13.

She told me she’s going to do so. She’s arranging with her Grandmother to travel out for her birthday and collect her ID card and Passport.
I had no say in it.

Do you oppose this? If she has any interest in an education or career in science or tech, which doesn't seem out of the question from the pi anecdote, then this is exactly the correct decision.

Absolutely not!

I couldn’t be more proud of the little firebrand she’s turning into.

I’m also impressed that she’s quite popular at school and can’t quite workout why she’s not a bullied Geek like I was at that age.
Having her Mum’s looks and charm probably helps...

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#741 Re: EU Referendum
March 25, 2019, 10:34:09 am

I realise this thread is generally free of satire, but I thought Jonathan Pie nailed it pretty well this weekend. (And besides, there's not much satire left to be had in this shit fest so his more recent reports/rants are relatively devoid of comedy and just brutally to the point).


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#742 Re: EU Referendum
March 25, 2019, 11:01:27 am
Mr Pie is definitely more shout than satire these days - and it's not him that's changed. Spot on as usual.

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#743 Re: EU Referendum
March 25, 2019, 11:08:25 am

I realise this thread is generally free of satire, but I thought Jonathan Pie nailed it pretty well this weekend. (And besides, there's not much satire left to be had in this shit fest so his more recent reports/rants are relatively devoid of comedy and just brutally to the point).



Yep.

That didn’t quite make me cry, but it was close.


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#744 Re: EU Referendum
March 25, 2019, 07:46:21 pm
For all those still wondering about the interplay between the EU Withdrawal Act's definition of exit day and the treaty definition, here is the (draft) amendment regulation that will change it:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2019/9780111184622

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#745 Re: EU Referendum
March 25, 2019, 08:59:03 pm
It's a good thing they remembered to do that, otherwise there might have been a genuine case of the UK accidentally leaving with No Deal and 29th March.  :lol:

2 (a) might be a bit redundant though, wasn't that dependent on Mrs May's deal, the one which she isn't bringing to the House on Tuesday, getting accepted by Parliament?

They're a bit pressed for time too; need to get it agreed by both houses so squeezing something that usually takes 6-8 weeks into 2-3 days.
:popcorn:

Dress-down Friday is going to be unusually exciting in the House of Lords this week I dare say!


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#746 Re: EU Referendum
March 26, 2019, 08:10:38 am
So....


Who’s in charge now?

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#747 Re: EU Referendum
March 26, 2019, 08:13:40 am
So....


Who’s in charge now?

The EU. Obviously.

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#749 Re: EU Referendum
March 26, 2019, 08:30:24 am
So....


Who’s in charge now?

The EU. Obviously.


Well, I was thinking, I have a couple hours free, this Thursday and since this is “the easiest deal in history”; I thoughtit might be a good starter for me to begin with. I thought it might be a plus for my Level 1 Economics evening classes.

 

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