However, one thing i suspect most people wouldn't consider is the exact location that they're stashed at the boulders. Are they blocking the entrance to an animal's den (up where i boulder in the highlands you'd expect fox, pine marten and even wildcat to use small spaces in/under boulders) or a place where deer or sheep shelter in crap weather?
I'm not really in favour of it. I don't see how 'marking them in some way' is going to make sense to the landowner/fell runner/walker.
So a friend (really not me) has stashed pads by his project for well over a year.. They are in a cave/fissure under a roof, in a place that only boulderers would visit. Only visible when you are within a metre or so of them. They won’t rot as it’s perma dry under there.
Would you leave a £600 bike in the same way for instance?
When I was trying that wall up at Earl Seat (still not been done, by the way...) I contemplated stashing some pads. It's something like an hour's walk in, maybe a little more. You're either on a steep path or walking through knee high heather as there is no path that takes you directly to the crag. I once had to carry 4 pads all strapped together plus a rucksack with kit on my front - that was very hard work indeed.
Quote from: Will Hunt on May 22, 2018, 12:35:06 pmWhen I was trying that wall up at Earl Seat (still not been done, by the way...) I contemplated stashing some pads. It's something like an hour's walk in, maybe a little more. You're either on a steep path or walking through knee high heather as there is no path that takes you directly to the crag. I once had to carry 4 pads all strapped together plus a rucksack with kit on my front - that was very hard work indeed.You might have had a better chance of doing it if you didn't have to cart around so many pads every time you went up.I was very grateful when someone showed me a good place to stash my pads overnight at Flock Hill, life leg saver.Slightly off topic. But how do people feel about other people using your stashed pads if they come across them? I'm thinking specifically for the problem they are under/near to, rather than for the entire day.
But how do people feel about other people using your stashed pads if they come across them?
The danger (as I've witnessed at Squamish) is that folk tend to leave their older pads, for obvious reasons, these then deteriorate and soon aren't worth taking home. If you don't you're no better than someone flytipping a mattress imo.
Quote from: 36chambers on May 22, 2018, 12:48:31 pmQuote from: Will Hunt on May 22, 2018, 12:35:06 pmWhen I was trying that wall up at Earl Seat (still not been done, by the way...) I contemplated stashing some pads. It's something like an hour's walk in, maybe a little more. You're either on a steep path or walking through knee high heather as there is no path that takes you directly to the crag. I once had to carry 4 pads all strapped together plus a rucksack with kit on my front - that was very hard work indeed.You might have had a better chance of doing it if you didn't have to cart around so many pads every time you went up.I was very grateful when someone showed me a good place to stash my pads overnight at Flock Hill, life leg saver.Slightly off topic. But how do people feel about other people using your stashed pads if they come across them? I'm thinking specifically for the problem they are under/near to, rather than for the entire day.Stashing pads doesn't help toughen your skin.What's the walk in to Flock Hill like? Simon's Seat equivalent? If you were going to Barden Fell two days on the trot would you actually stash pads? You belong in the climbing wall, ND
Quote from: Johnny Brown on May 22, 2018, 12:20:50 pmThe danger (as I've witnessed at Squamish) is that folk tend to leave their older pads, for obvious reasons, these then deteriorate and soon aren't worth taking home. If you don't you're no better than someone flytipping a mattress imo.The Squampton pad stash situation seemed to be pretty well managed last summer, there were a lot in Gibb's cave but they were all labelled up, and locals said that knackered ones get cleaned up. I know there were quite a few stashes elsewhere in the forest, but the feeling I got was that the climbing community took responsibility for these too. I think the situation is different in places like that, where climbing is well accepted and is the major use of the area. The forest below the chief is satisfying litter free considering the amount of traffic it gets.
for instance under Careless Torque.
under Careless Torque