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Cotswold Outdoor and Snow+Rock become BMC’s new recommended retailer partners (Read 13088 times)

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"..run by nice people.." Sorry Simon, I'd not considered that .. not like those smelly Indy types and Moshers.

You've got the inference the wrong way round Dave. Nice as opposed to other types you can get in business i.e. 'suits' with their corporate bullshit, egomaniacal dragon types etc. No issue with indy types though preferably unsmelly.

I like the people I've recently met at Cotswold and I've known one of the Directors 25 years from when he was store manager at Oxford st Manchester. I admire any business that grows itself and still holds onto core values - in Cotswolds case its customer service.

Normally in these Partnership arrangements the Partnering company has exclusivity so no other smaller independent retailer would be allowed to promote themselves. Cotswold allowed the flexibility for us to continue to do so. It was something that was clear that the members wanted from consultations at Area meetings and with National Council
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Hi Simon, and thanks for your good natured reply. In issues like this - and I mean with respect to the other BMC issues out there, it can be very easy for everyone to start throwing around claims that this/that is right/wrong etc, scoring hits, putting down etc etc; we all know the game. My view, and it is a strong one, is that there are great opportunities for collaboration between the BMC and *what's already there*. There are unhelpful connotations with words like "volunteer" and "professional", and the debate goes off into tangents that don't - I feel - deal with the essential perhaps constitutional considerations. It seems as though the BMC is giving validity to things as it chooses, rather than recognising and acting in support of what many climbers are already trying to do. I feel there is too much emphasis on the BMC. It's "our" climbing, not the BMC's. I'm concerned that some aspects of climbing will get promoted to the exclusion of much of what many hold dear - including our right to make climbing what we want it to be. That's my worry. I don't want climbing to be at the mercy of the BMC. I've spoken to some people recently, who assumed that some of the crowdfunded money would be going to support some of the individuals working on other crags - the Garys and Kris of this world. A lot of work can be publicised and applauded, without any awareness of where funding might otherwise go. In my opinion, we don't want that consideration unduly influenced from within the BMC, but increasingly it seems to be the case. What the BMC are doing seems increasingly irrelevant to so much of what climbing has meant to me. I don't have to recognise the clergy, to have faith.

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Increasingly irrelevant from what level though? Surely you support the BMC access work and thats by far the main activity the organisation supports.

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When I think of the climbing 'scene' in the UK, I see the independent shops as an essential part of that scene. This deal is just another nail in the coffin for them, as they simply cannot compete on price with the multiples. Hopefully they'll survive as climbers will continue to support them, rather than simply shopping around for the lowest price.

My initial instinct was similar to this but, having thought about it, I'm pretty comfortable with the initiative now.

I love a good independent, whether they sell afrobeat vinyl or totem cams. The bosses of the two good (climbing) independents in London tell me they are far more concerned about web-only discounters than the likes of Cotswold. The threat to Honest Jon's was Amazon not HMV. If you want to try new Blancos in London you have to go to Cold Mountain Kit. Folk won't then be rushing off to take advantage of their -15% at Snow and Rock but some might mail-order as Paul B suggests.




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Fair comment ref web-only discounters.

The point above about suppliers and business owners is well made too. We work closely with both ME and Rab, both of whom seem very keen to remain credible by making stuff that actually works as well as look nice. Multiples wouldn't consider stocking some of the specialist gear as they won't shift hundreds of units and need the space in-store for Berghaus fleeces and anoraks or whatever.

 

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