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#50 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 08:56:25 am
Would anyone ever pay to watch a speed climbing event anyway? Surely you can just watch last year's one and then look at the results.

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#51 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 09:09:23 am
From 8A.nu  Quote from IFSC just 3 weeks ago.

"We expect to convince IOC, but not only, that hopefully before 2020 that we deserve some help, because the sport is growing to fast and we do not have the resources to manage the sport. If it goes on in this way and our income does not increase and therefore we are not able to hire additional human resources. We will become victim of our success."

Sounds like they may be struggling for investment to do everything they want/need to do and so they have chosen to go down this route. Maybe this deal takes over the development and large costs of getting the live broadcast out. Still completely the wrong decision but i suspect a quicker and easier way to get cash than trying to persuade sponsors.

I have not seen one positive comment anywhere about it and think they really have messed up.

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#52 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 09:15:49 am
Where's Graeme?

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#53 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 09:55:56 am
Where's Graeme?

Meiringen - but he's said on the other channel he's not going to comment, beyond "No Comment".

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#55 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 10:14:16 am
Given this and the 4 minute nonsense, what the fuck is going on at the IFSC? Are they really on the brink of going bust or something? - tbh I think it'd have been better to cancel the livestreams if the costs of running them were too high, at least they wouldn't be locked in to this bullshit for 3 years. Makes me (almost) have some sympathy for the BMC 30's "life president" gripes with the IFSC.

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#56 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 10:23:24 am
My concern is that obviously FLOclimbing (not heard of the organisation before, is it an offshoot if IFS or independent) have paid the IFSC for the rights to stream and charge, if they make less than they paid for the rights (which wouldn't surprise me) would they go after the IFSC for being sold a pig in a poke?

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#57 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 10:26:12 am
If they needed money, put more adverts into the stream?

+1. Complete lack of imagination.

If it'd been a few quid I would've subscribed.

20 whatevers/month is pretty laughable considering the previous quality of the stream.

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#58 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 12:16:16 pm
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#60 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 12:43:22 pm
Loam Lonsdale has written a bit about it: http://www.liamlonsdale.com/journal/ifsc-flosport

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#61 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 12:56:17 pm
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54bfe6aee4b0e4c01b85d532/t/58e5287bdb29d69a40f816c4/1491413121519/?format=1500w

Looking at this image from Liam's blog it sounds like the comps are broadcast on Japanese TV. I wonder how hard it would be to find a stream of the channel or the Japanese live stream?

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#62 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 01:21:38 pm
Ha - good spot! So The subscription price also includes one which is free to view too?

Also on FB:
Katharina Saurwein Why not close the competition venue for the public so that we have even less poeple watching the comps???
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#63 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 02:02:00 pm
Presumably FloSports will end up discounting it heavily or doing some form of promotion. I wonder how many people who previously watched the live streams would pay anything though?

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#64 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 02:06:17 pm
Can't find any positive comments about it anywhere... I am properly gutted. We, as a family, have been talking about it and looking forward to it for ages. The IFSC have been hyping it up, getting us all excited and then shut everyone down two days before the event. The Noodle (8) had even shown a proper interest for once...   :thumbsdown:

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#65 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 02:20:59 pm
Presumably FloSports will end up discounting it heavily or doing some form of promotion. I wonder how many people who previously watched the live streams would pay anything though?

I think i watched 1 or 2 last year, but only half watch them. I personally would maybe pay a pound or so, no more.

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#66 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 02:56:55 pm
I've paid for tickets for live boulder world cup events, twice, and had an absolutely great time at both of them. I would again this year, but am likely to be visiting family in England when the Munich event is on.  :(

I wouldn't have a huge problem with reasonably priced pay per view - I'm sure producing and filming the events is expensive - but I'm certainly not paying those subscription prices.

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#67 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 03:03:22 pm
Seems both the Beacon and the Hangar will be showing the live stream...

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#68 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 03:50:58 pm
No word from Shauna or the other GB climbers yet?

Also what's the legality of showing the live stream in a public venue?

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#69 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 04:17:05 pm
No word from Shauna or the other GB climbers yet?

Also what's the legality of showing the live stream in a public venue?

I think Shauna and or Leah have tweeted about the non optimal situation... though they probably have to be careful about biting the hand that feeds them etc..

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#70 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 04:24:32 pm
Well, the hand the feeds them (triple-stripe and sugary drink manufacturer) surely gets less from sponsorship if nobody watches them compete? It's almost impossible in this day and age to avoid the results of sporting events and I think even if it's free, watching it after, will be less engaging.

Basically it's a pants decision and even if they did need/want to monetise it, IMO they're far too premature. The cost is ludicrous (>Netflix / Now TV).

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#71 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 05:27:03 pm
Seems both the Beacon and the Hangar will be showing the live stream...

Whilst admirable (and against Flo's terms and conditions) part of me wishes they didn't, as this is still giving money to them. Granted, 50 people watching at a single venue is a lot less than those 50 paying individually, but still - an overall boycott would be more effective.


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#72 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 06:29:53 pm
What an impressive act of greed and fuckwittery. I've been enjoying the IFSC streams of both lead and bouldering (speed is wank and should be abolished) over the last few yrs to the extent that I was planning to go to a live event this yr in Europe, incorporated into a climbing holiday obviously. Don't think I'll bother now.
4min rule, as seen at CWIF, also removes a lot of the drama.

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#73 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 06:42:56 pm
No word from Shauna or the other GB climbers yet?

Also what's the legality of showing the live stream in a public venue?

There seems to be "some" dissent amongst the competitors.
A smidge, at least.


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#74 Re: IFSC 2017
April 06, 2017, 07:20:21 pm
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