Rounded off with 20 minutes of one on, one off on the circuit board as recommended in Tom'n'Ollie's latest movie. Surprisingly exhausting overall even though I wasn't getting pumped on the individual rounds. (I wasn't supposed to be was I?)
Achey shoulders/back from (carrying pads? on) Saturday.
Went to wall to chat and revise for bike theory,
Apparently I have good AnCap achieving 75% of initial rep on 3rd rep.
W. Finished the rest of Cascade Lillaz. Could climb this route every year and never get bored.
"Furnace closed so couldn't do AeroPow on autobelays":Ian what protocol do you use to do this?
Quote from: T_B on January 16, 2017, 09:49:58 am Apparently I have good AnCap achieving 75% of initial rep on 3rd rep. According to my assessment feedback that rep tells you your AeroCap and the final (5th?) rep of that block gives your AnCap? AnCap score should be somewhere around 30% iiirc.
Quote from: nai on January 16, 2017, 01:16:07 pmQuote from: T_B on January 16, 2017, 09:49:58 am Apparently I have good AnCap achieving 75% of initial rep on 3rd rep. According to my assessment feedback that rep tells you your AeroCap and the final (5th?) rep of that block gives your AnCap? AnCap score should be somewhere around 30% iiirc.Yes I noted Shark said the same in a previous post. It's not what others who've been tested have said though and would seem counterintuitive (I'm not very fit but PE has always been a natural strength).
QuoteWent to wall to chat and revise for bike theory, Sounds similar to my revision tactics, good luck with it (you'll piss it)
I wasn't trying to beat it on my 2nd attempt. I was just trying to do 75% of max on my second and subsequent attempts (rest period same as climbing time). Clearly something has been lost in translation.
M: Lunch - 50 Crunches30 Side plank raises (15 each side)5 x 5sec L-hangs3 x 10 Knee raises3 x 10 Dorsal raises (+5kg)5 x 5sec L-hangs50 CrunchesEve: Cold water treatment on both hands - 20mins(~7.5hrs)T: Lunch - Max weight narrow pinchRepeated the below for both arms, 1 min between repsPinch strength seems completely equal on both arms as all max efforts were identical...strangeR1: 10s - 10kgR2: 10s - 15kgR3: 10s - 17.5kgR4: 10s - 17.5kgR5: 10s - 18.5kgR6: 10s - 19kgR7: 7s - 20kgEve - Plas Power - 3 x 5 min on 5 min off LI-AeroCapDeadhangs - ~25mm edge2 mins between hangs5 x 10 sec Open hand2 x 8 sec Half crimp15 mins limit bouldering on pinches and slopersAnCap - 8 reps x 15 moves (3 mins rest between reps, 2 mins rest before rep 8 )Powered out on move 11 of rep 8, need to make the circuit slightly harder next time(~7.5hrs)W: Lunch - 50 Crunches (+5kg)30 Side plank raises (15 each side)5 x 5sec L-hangs2 x 10 Widescreen wipers3 x 10 Dorsal raises (+5kg)5 x 5sec L-hangs2 x 10 Widescreen wipers50 Crunches (+5kg)Eve: Cold water treatment on both hands - 20mins(~7.5hrs)T: Lunch - Max weight narrow pinchRepeated the below for both arms, 1 min between repsR1: 10s - 12.5kgR2: 10s - 15kgR3: 10s - 17.5kgR4: 10s - 19kgR5: 10s - 20kgR6: 10s - 20kgR7: 10s - 20kgEve: Drove most of the way to the wall but snow too bad in the car, drove home, doned some wellies and ran 2 miles to Plas Power.3 x 5 mins on 5 min off LI-AeroCapDeadhangs - ~25mm edge2 mins between hangs3 x 10 sec Open handHalf Crimp - 7s, 10s, 8sLimit bouldering on slopers and pinches for 20 mins.AeroPow - 30 moves (~80s) x 8 reps (80s rest between reps)Had to tweak the circuit "on the fly" to get the intensity right, basicly all on jugs on the circuit board. Got a good circuit for next time. Need to slow down too.2 mile walk home.(~6hrs)F: Lunch - 50 Crunches (+5kg)30 Side plank raises (15 each side)5 x 5sec L-hangs3 x 10 Dorsal raises (+5kg)5 x 5sec L-hangs50 Crunches (+5kg)(~7hrs)S: Rest - (~6hrs)S: Deadhangs - 15 min warm up on random hangs1. 20mm Edge (3 Finger open hand) - 3 x 7s on, 53s off2. 30' slopers - 3 x 7s on, 53s off (-2.5kg)3. 30mm edge (Half crimp) - 3 x 7s on, 53s off3 mins rest between setsEccentrics: Palms-Up Curls - 3 x 15 (8kg), Pronator Teres - 3 x 15 (2kg)(~5.5hrs)
Going to keep at the AnCap, bouldering and finger board
It should be noted that increasing your anaerobic capacity thus increases your ability to produce lactate, meaning that it is essential to do sufficient aerobic capacity work whilst working on this energy system (and aerobic power work afterwards), or your body won’t be able to cope with this new ability and you’ll quickly find yourself very, very pumped. This is a rare example of ‘more is not always better’ – a high anaerobic capacity with the aerobic components underdeveloped will lead to really bad performance on routes.
Paul made me test a problem on the lattice board for the comp which he was going to name "Too hard for Sharkey" except I flashed it and nobody else did.
Quote from: shark on January 16, 2017, 08:22:49 pm Going to keep at the AnCap, bouldering and finger board And AeroCap of course?Quote from: barrowsIt should be noted that increasing your anaerobic capacity thus increases your ability to produce lactate, meaning that it is essential to do sufficient aerobic capacity work whilst working on this energy system (and aerobic power work afterwards), or your body won’t be able to cope with this new ability and you’ll quickly find yourself very, very pumped. This is a rare example of ‘more is not always better’ – a high anaerobic capacity with the aerobic components underdeveloped will lead to really bad performance on routes.bottom of page 3https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-40C59n2E_4aVRyYjY5U1Rtc2c/editI can confirm from experience that neglecting AeroCap while hammering AnCap really does totally mess things up.
Given my lattice results classed my performance as (relatively) "excellent" for aerobic efficiency I thought this is something that could give in a busy week but I will make more of an effort to include it if you think it really is that important.
11.3-5M. T. W. PM AnCap session on systems boardT.F. Burbage to meet and boulder with TT and Jim. Tried BD but was more of a social and to get outside. Eve Good fingerboard repeater session (drags) S. PM AnCap session on systems board. Went well. 2 sets. S PM Some bouldering down the Foundry. Busy. Paul made me test a problem on the lattice board for the comp which he was going to name "Too hard for Sharkey" except I flashed it and nobody else did. Late eve. Fingerboard repeater session (crimps)First week at work. Lots of travel. Lots to take in and think about. Required much more effort to pull my finger out and train. Friday regained significance. Going to keep at the AnCap, bouldering and finger board till the end of the month then retest myself on the lattice board with Paul
Hello ! I've read 'What is Power Club' being brave and joining in, hope that's OK. I'm mainly a route climber but like a bit of winter grit .
STG-Be more consistent with strength and conditioning practice and HITImprove Grit boulderingUnderstand energy systems training better.lose 2kg reduce body fatMTG (2017) Finish open (route) projects ('Secret Gudgeon society' embankment & 'I punched Judy first' Dinbren )5 more 7b & b+ redpoints Get back to the Orme more.Redpoint 1st 7c by end of 2017I haven't done any assessments but have been solely bouldering fora good 2 months now so am assuming my endurance is shot . As such I'm planning on ancap and aerocap work in about 2 to 1 ratio for 6 weeks with some general bouldering and strength work. That's my understanding of Alex Barrows base phase ?? Am I on the right track ? Maybe more aero cap ?Thanks for any advice, looking forward to contributing in Power Club (sorry its late)
'I punched Judy first' Dinbren
: Into next weeks post I know, but hoping for some guidance. Sunday I tried to put together an anaerobic capacity set : two v4s close together 6 and 7 moves each. climbed first then down a v2 and back up the second. this took about 50 seconds so rested 3 minutes. Repeated 4 times. However on 3rd & 4th rep was not really completing the second problem (fingers opening )Then rested 10 minutes and repeated with about the same result.Firstly is this about the correct protocol secondly, if it is should i go easier/ shorter /longer rest or just persevere until i can complete the reps and sets as I have planned.
As such I'm planning on ancap and aerocap work in about 2 to 1 ratio for 6 weeks with some general bouldering and strength work. That's my understanding of Alex Barrows base phase ?? Am I on the right track ? Maybe more aero cap ?
Welcome! It sounds like ~v4 is about your flash/onsight level for bouldering, so I would think that's a good level for your Ancap work. 50 Sec is also about right, but I haven't done any ancap in a while.
Quote from: psborland on January 17, 2017, 04:40:09 pm'I punched Judy first' DinbrenWelcome! Good route that one!Quote from: psborland on January 17, 2017, 04:40:09 pm: Into next weeks post I know, but hoping for some guidance. Sunday I tried to put together an anaerobic capacity set : two v4s close together 6 and 7 moves each. climbed first then down a v2 and back up the second. this took about 50 seconds so rested 3 minutes. Repeated 4 times. However on 3rd & 4th rep was not really completing the second problem (fingers opening )Then rested 10 minutes and repeated with about the same result.Firstly is this about the correct protocol secondly, if it is should i go easier/ shorter /longer rest or just persevere until i can complete the reps and sets as I have planned.For AnCap you're looking at 12 - 15 moves aiming to power out on 20% of reps. If you're looking to do Dinbren style routes you'd be better off doing the shorter end; 12 moves and resting twice the climbing time. You can either do 8 - 12 reps or 2 blocks of 4 reps with 10 mins inbetween (allows for a harder sequence), from what you were doing it sounds a bit too difficult as you powered out on 50% of the reps. If you were keeping with this structure I'd say to make the circuit slightly easier and aim to power out on ~20% of reps, although the Barrows document say's AnCap rest times can be between 2 - 4 times the climb time.Quote from: psborland on January 17, 2017, 04:40:09 pmAs such I'm planning on ancap and aerocap work in about 2 to 1 ratio for 6 weeks with some general bouldering and strength work. That's my understanding of Alex Barrows base phase ?? Am I on the right track ? Maybe more aero cap ?2 AnCap sessions is enough per week, even this can feel a bit much if they're close together. Do you have a goal in mind for a certain time? If so this will dictate when you'd be best trying to move into a peak phase and then ultimately performing. If anyone thinks I'm talking a load of crap feel free to corret me
Thanks for the info Luke, Yes I'm keen to get back on Judy, so to speak .Timing is subject to the weather coming good ( Spring sports hotRock trip recently got cancelled due to injured partner ) so I'm aiming for late march/April to be back on routes. Judy will be high on my priorities. That's interesting you think slightly lower number of moves for Dinbren. I'll have a look at the wall this evening but I reckon I was probably close to 12 moves on the later reps 15 on the earlier ones so I'll see if I can adjust it slightly. So if I'm doing 2 x 4 I should be failing on the last rep only. I'm not sure what the effect of changing the rest time has, so I plumped for the middle I.e 3 x climb time.Cheers.