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#50 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 09:50:09 am
One of the twitter highlights yesterday was this thread: make sure you scroll down to some of the methods :)

https://twitter.com/i/moments/796072650225438722

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#51 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 09:53:54 am
In a moment, Jeremy Beadle is going to rise from the dead and in a sinister, echoing voice cry "You've beeeeen Frraaammmmed"!


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#52 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 09:56:45 am
:agree:

Looking forward (kind of) to hearing from our own correspondent in Philly...

Have gangs of right wingers starting lining up "foreigners" and deporting them yet?  :'(


I have heard from a friend over there that there were crowds chanting "We hate blacks, we hate Muslim's, throw them out" in NY.
Which she'd picked up from her Twitter feed. Anyone else heard anything similar?


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#53 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 10:11:30 am
Still trying to get my head round a system where someone with no political experience whatsoever can be made a head of state. Just a chancer with some cash will do.

Ronald Reagan & (to a lesser extent) The Governator?

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#54 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 10:12:09 am
Still trying to get my head round a system where someone with no political experience whatsoever can be made a head of state...

 :slap: Whereas under our system it would only take the deaths of three people for the UK to have a head of state with no political experience who was barely out of nappies!

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#55 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 10:21:24 am
Still trying to get my head round a system where someone with no political experience whatsoever can be made a head of state. Just a chancer with some cash will do.

Ronald Reagan & (to a lesser extent) The Governator?

Exactly.

Still trying to get my head round a system where someone with no political experience whatsoever can be made a head of state...

 :slap: Whereas under our system it would only take the deaths of three people for the UK to have a head of state with no political experience who was barely out of nappies!

Well luckily our head of state has basically no real political power. At least cunts like Cameron, Osborne, Johnson, Gove and May have to at least get elected in as MPs first, albeit in safe seats. This at least seems to act to filter out the genuinely criminally insane sociopaths and flagrant fascists.

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#56 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 10:31:18 am
Still trying to get my head round a system where someone with no political experience whatsoever can be made a head of state. Just a chancer with some cash will do.

Ronald Reagan & (to a lesser extent) The Governator?

Reagan had been governor of California before he was elected president.

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#57 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 10:58:44 am
Indeed. Parliament can get rid of a PM at any time they like as long as they all act (fairly) collectively...

Will Trump be as bad as many (including me) feared? Thats the Q everyone will be asking - from Russia to China, from Wall street to some other street etc..

As a sociopath has only been saying these things to get where he is? And don't forget it has worked.... Doesn't mean he's actually going to do any of what he has promised... If you cover your eyes and forget that he's a lying sex pest many of his views (for a republican) are pretty moderate (compared to Cruz anyway..).

Maybe its self delusion.... (on my part)

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#58 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 11:08:03 am
As long as the Republicans don't get the House and the Senate it'll be ok......... Oh.......

Be kind of interesting to see how Trump works with the Republican party in Congress etc given how many disowned him at one point or other in the campaign...

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#59 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 11:11:49 am
Sex pest is 'preferable but not essential' for this job.

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#60 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 11:45:36 am



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#61 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 11:49:12 am
As an aside from the grim result, what is the deal with US presidents and external interests, i.e. Trump's business empire?

I've heard about "blind trusts" but don't really understand them / haven't read about them much.

I guess being president will take up a lot of his time now and there may be many conflicts of interest...

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#62 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 12:16:31 pm
Never a publication to pull punches, this is nevertheless rather direct even by NS standards:

http://www.newstatesman.com/world/2016/11/president-trump-promises-be-part-clown-part-bigot-and-all-authoritarian


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#63 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 12:45:33 pm

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#64 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 01:16:18 pm
Looking forward (kind of) to hearing from our own correspondent in Philly...

I have nothing to say right now. I feared this might happen, but hoped and believed it might not.

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#65 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 01:25:56 pm
It looks like she won the popular vote.

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#66 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 02:11:01 pm

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#67 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 02:32:15 pm
Dr Jill Stein's pre-election opinions on her fellow presidential candidates may provide a little comfort. Anyone who can't sit through 2:35 can watch from 1 min or 1:40...



In four years time Trump can be judged on what he did while in office (rather than what he said during the campaign). Clinton's record counted against her.

I'm happy to say I'm comfortable with my own disinterest at the result.

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#68 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 06:38:28 pm
Still trying to get my head round a system where someone with no political experience whatsoever can be made a head of state. Just a chancer with some cash will do.

Ronald Reagan & (to a lesser extent) The Governator?

Reagan had been governor of California before he was elected president.

And is on record as saying 'the biggest source of pollution in California is trees'

Trump is the logical evolution, more extreme and populist in more extreme times. Look to Gert Wilder and Marine Le Pen next.

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#69 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 07:17:47 pm
Given the number of drought induced wildfires in California; he was probably right...

Chicken, egg, chicken ad infinitum.


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#70 Re: Trump
November 09, 2016, 07:22:26 pm
So, off to a great start:

https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10154230093651939/


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#71 Re: Trump
November 10, 2016, 08:09:23 am
Some sickening facts:

Trump overall got fewer votes than Hillary.

Trump overall got fewer votes than the last two Republican candidates who lost.

Turnout was only a shade over 50%. Basically a shit load of Obama voters didn't vote for Hillary (presumably didn't bother to vote), and that sealed the deal for Clownface Von Fuckstick.

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#72 Re: Trump
November 10, 2016, 08:20:21 am
Good to know its not just the UK that has a farcical voting system then.

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#73 Re: Trump
November 10, 2016, 10:02:16 am

Turnout was only a shade over 50%. Basically a shit load of Obama voters didn't vote for Hillary (presumably didn't bother to vote), and that sealed the deal for Clownface Von Fuckstick.

Clinton seems to occupy the same position in the US that Blair does here, for many of the same reasons. My mates over there (Democrat voters obviously) were basically like "I can't believe Trump's driven me to vote for her". Seems many many more tuned out of the whole thing weeks ago and took the "wake me when it's over" approach, assuming Clinton would make it over the line without them sullying their conscience. That's what you get for not voting I suppose.

Trump won Florida by about 130,000 votes- "third party" candidates got 300,000. I wonder how many of those were protest votes from people who similarly thought that Hillary would get in anyway?

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#74 Re: Trump
November 10, 2016, 10:26:20 am

Turnout was only a shade over 50%. Basically a shit load of Obama voters didn't vote for Hillary (presumably didn't bother to vote), and that sealed the deal for Clownface Von Fuckstick.

Seems many many more tuned out of the whole thing weeks ago and took the "wake me when it's over" approach, assuming Clinton would make it over the line without them sullying their conscience. That's what you get for not voting I suppose.

Summarised nicely....



I continue to be amazed at peoples irrational logic and apathy.

 

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