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#2576 Re: U-S-A! The American Politics Thread.
December 19, 2022, 02:46:51 pm
'"I imagine he's getting pressure from investors to step down and is using this poll to make it look like he's following the will of the people instead of the will of those paying his bills."'

That and/or Tesla investors threatening a coup if he doesn't get back to doing what's supposed to be his main job, rather than dicking around and tanking their stock in the process.

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#2578 Re: U-S-A! The American Politics Thread.
December 20, 2022, 02:56:30 pm
Hoping Trump will be denied running. Will then wait for Musk to poll twitter on whether he should run for president, millions of Chinese bots vote yes, and by 2027 we have a US/spaceX embassy on the moon.   

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#2579 Re: U-S-A! The American Politics Thread.
December 20, 2022, 03:26:18 pm
And then he finds out that someone at the embassy once said something critical about him on social media and cuts off their oxygen.

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#2580 Re: U-S-A! The American Politics Thread.
December 20, 2022, 03:47:56 pm
Who, Trump or Musk? :)

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#2581 Re: U-S-A! The American Politics Thread.
December 20, 2022, 05:28:59 pm

Even if I could afford one (I can't!) there is absolutely zero chance I would ever buy a Tesla. Thats entirely down to Musk. Complete nobhead.

I would, I think they're nice cars if a bit pricey. Musk being a bellend should would have no impact on whether or not I bought a Tessie. Do you shun VW? I mean they systematically corrupted the emissions testing to cheat environmental regulations for years. A far worse crime than simply being a nob yet it doesn't appear to put people off.

I've always been baffled as to why/how VW ended up being the fall guy for this. It was industry wide, a "known secret", VW weren't even the worst yet seemed to cop the lot. The Nissan Qashqai was well known as being by far the worst offender but remained un-criticized and a massive best seller.

Re Musk, it has definitely put me off Teslas, for the same reasons as Ali et al articulated above. I know me buying a Polestar/Hyundai or whatever won't cause Elon to lose any sleep (and it I've no idea who the CEOs of those two example are, nor their political/ethical leanings) but it will mean I will sleep easier!

There was a pretty "one eye closed" docu-stitch-up on Netflix or youtube a few years back, loads of talking head interviews in the US with people being "shocked" at what VW had done. Felt like total hatchet job with an agenda.

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#2582 Re: U-S-A! The American Politics Thread.
December 20, 2022, 05:53:51 pm
I know what you (and other posters) are trying to say, but it isnít very apt to say a Ďhatchet jobí when the subject in question actually *is* massively in the wrong!
ĎThrowing under the busí might be more apt.

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If the GOP does win the House their majority will probably be tiny and the party fractious and hard to govern.

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If the GOP does win the House their majority will probably be tiny and the party fractious and hard to govern.

Serves them right for allowing Qanon fruit loops into the party. I would include the previous President in that category.

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Would be really nice to have some context to that. Anyone have a video of it?

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Would be really nice to have some context to that. Anyone have a video of it?

Context would really be just Trump's normal rally performance: free association, digression, bragging, lying, and incoherence. It doesn't need to make any sense. I actually know (through family) someone who was there - they have a condo in the town. All the Jersey shore beach towns are very white, but Wildwood is also pretty rednecky, and very Trumpy (in a pretty solidly Democratic state).

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He's a reality TV star, in a very big show. The storylines aren't real, but the consequences are.

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This has to be the craziest Trump 2024 footage I've seen yet. I'm not sure what the back story is....

https://twitter.com/harvardplayer/status/1788569137637122242


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Who are the forerunners - Trump, Biden, RFK- Jr,

It would be fascinating to see RFK-Jr get in, very unlikely I'd imagine due to his status as the enemy of truth, unfortunately it looks like Trump vs Biden.

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Who are the forerunners - Trump, Biden, RFK- Jr,

It would be fascinating to see RFK-Jr get in, very unlikely I'd imagine due to his status as the enemy of truth, unfortunately it looks like Trump vs Biden.
It's doubtful he can even get on all state ballots right now so it's technically impossible for him to win out right.
Even if he was on them I'd bet everything I have in the bank that no 3rd party candidate could win. It's too hard the way the US system is set up

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They seem to have gone full retard this time

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Trump has been found guilty on all counts. Remarkable, doubly so as I suspect it won't seriously affect his chances in the election.

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Iíve been hearing that polling in swing voters suggests they donít like the idea of a convicted felon as president, but I donít have a solid source on that.

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Fake news, biased jury, bad judge. More hot air in his sail. Hope he gets thumped in election.

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Iíve been hearing that polling in swing voters suggests they donít like the idea of a convicted felon as president, but I donít have a solid source on that.


Turned up on BBC probably read about it at the time:

ĎIn exit polls conducted during the Republican primaries this winter, double-digit numbers of voters said that they would not vote for the former president if he were convicted of a felony.
An April survey by Ipsos and ABC News found that 16% of those backing Trump would reconsider their support in such a situation.í

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I get the feeling that a silent majority of people are sitting quietly waiting to either not vote for trump or get out and vote for Biden.

As ever the swing states will be the only ones worth watching and they havenít been given a particularly compelling reason to vote for trump.

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Itís a sign of the times when the choice is between a narcissistic Umpa-Lumpa and a dementing old pervert 😆

 

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