UKBouldering.com

U-S-A! The American Politics Thread. (Read 504395 times)

andy popp

Online
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 5532
  • Karma: +347/-5
#1725 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 07:30:22 am
So, does he have it?

Sympathy vote ploy?

Is it BS?

Unfortunately, I’m so jaded by all this, this is my first reaction.

My first post was genuinely made before the news of the positive result. I had those thoughts, of course, but I think the potential downsides to this news are bigger (for him) than the upsides. I think it's true.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2020, 07:41:36 am by andy popp »

ali k

Offline
  • ****
  • junky
  • Posts: 948
  • Karma: +38/-1
#1726 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 07:40:55 am
Sympathy vote ploy?

Is it BS?

Unfortunately, I’m so jaded by all this, this is my first reaction.
That was exactly my first thought too.

Dac

Offline
  • **
  • player
  • Posts: 79
  • Karma: +14/-0
#1727 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 07:44:00 am
I'm going to need an I.V. line and a bottle of bleach.....

If Trump is out of action could they get Pence to stand in for the debates? He couldn't do worse than Trump and has the advantage that any questions linked to Wotsit Hitler's tax affairs or business dealings can be parried away as something you have to ask the orange one himself.

Offwidth

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 1767
  • Karma: +57/-13
    • Offwidth
#1728 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 07:44:48 am
Several people seem to be speculating if this could be another political distraction move but it seems unlikely as his Doctor also reported it. Trump is now apparently the biggest spreader of covid fake news afterall:

 https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/evanega-et-al-coronavirus-misinformation-submitted-07-23-20-1/080839ac0c22bca8/full.pdf

andy popp

Online
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 5532
  • Karma: +347/-5
#1729 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 07:50:44 am
If Trump is out of action could they get Pence to stand in for the debates?

No, most likely they simply won't go ahead. We can still look forward to Kamala eviscerating Pence however.

tomtom

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 20284
  • Karma: +641/-11
#1730 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 08:16:44 am
Over the next two weeks we’re going to see whether Karma exists or not...

webbo

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 5029
  • Karma: +141/-13
#1731 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 08:26:38 am
Maybe he doesn’t have it. So when he goes through two weeks quarantine without so much as a sniffle. Just think of the scenarios that he could then use.

TobyD

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 3836
  • Karma: +88/-3
  • Job offers gratefully accepted
#1732 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 08:31:27 am
So, does he have it?

Sympathy vote ploy?

Is it BS?

Unfortunately, I’m so jaded by all this, this is my first reaction.

That was exactly what I thought. It's so depressing that he's such an unpleasant individual that that is not a surprising or uncommon response.

SA Chris

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 29236
  • Karma: +631/-11
    • http://groups.msn.com/ChrisClix
#1733 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 08:40:41 am
Over the next two weeks we’re going to see whether Karma exists or not...

Karma in the form of Kamala. Like andy said, I expect it will be a bloodbath.

Offwidth

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 1767
  • Karma: +57/-13
    • Offwidth
#1734 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 08:55:42 am
More bad news for his family in the latest detail from the tax story

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/28/politics/ivanka-trump-donald-trump-tacves/index.html


SA Chris

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 29236
  • Karma: +631/-11
    • http://groups.msn.com/ChrisClix
#1735 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 09:15:29 am
Need Ben Affleck on the case yo'

Nibile

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 7994
  • Karma: +743/-4
  • Part Animal Part Machine
    • TOTOLORE
#1736 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 09:25:17 am
Yes, he does.
The thing that should make people think is, in my opinion, the fact that he knew Hicks's positivity and hid it, going on normally with social life: meeting supporters, going on TV, etc.

andy popp

Online
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 5532
  • Karma: +347/-5
#1737 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 09:29:41 am
Yes, he's been recklessly endangering the American people for months, he carried on doing it on Thursday knowing Hicks was ill (even if the test wasn't back), and he has recklessly endangered the nation's leadership at a critical moment.

Nibile

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 7994
  • Karma: +743/-4
  • Part Animal Part Machine
    • TOTOLORE
#1738 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 09:45:52 am
Normal day at the office, then.

Oldmanmatt

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • At this rate, I probably won’t last the week.
  • Posts: 7103
  • Karma: +368/-17
  • Largely broken. Obsolete spares and scrap only.
    • The Boulder Bunker climbing centre
#1739 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 12:41:13 pm
Of course, this means Trump exposed Biden too.
There was a fair amount of shouting in that debate, so all those cartoons of Biden being drowned in Trumps spray, might be prophetic...

Harris for Pres?


« Last Edit: October 02, 2020, 12:46:24 pm by Oldmanmatt »

andy popp

Online
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 5532
  • Karma: +347/-5
#1740 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 01:14:34 pm
In other news today: Melania's take on being expected to show sympathy for children separated at the border, "Give me a fucking break."

Oldmanmatt

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • At this rate, I probably won’t last the week.
  • Posts: 7103
  • Karma: +368/-17
  • Largely broken. Obsolete spares and scrap only.
    • The Boulder Bunker climbing centre
#1741 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 02:40:01 pm
In other news today: Melania's take on being expected to show sympathy for children separated at the border, "Give me a fucking break."

I liked the appellation given her by one publication this morning:

A Double Agent in the war on Christmas...

Oldmanmatt

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • At this rate, I probably won’t last the week.
  • Posts: 7103
  • Karma: +368/-17
  • Largely broken. Obsolete spares and scrap only.
    • The Boulder Bunker climbing centre
#1742 Re: Trump
October 02, 2020, 10:36:26 pm
So, he’s in Walter Reed.

They surely have fairly extensive med facilities and staff in the White house?

But he needs to be in a hospital for “tests”?


tomtom

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 20284
  • Karma: +641/-11
#1743 Re: Trump
October 03, 2020, 07:55:23 am
So, he’s in Walter Reed.

They surely have fairly extensive med facilities and staff in the White house?

But he needs to be in a hospital for “tests”?

They can react quicker there I guess. But maybe it’s for the reverse reason. They’ll have to quarantine and deep clean large parts of the White House - so maybe just easier to move the source somewhere else rather than work around him?

andy popp

Online
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 5532
  • Karma: +347/-5
#1744 Re: Trump
October 03, 2020, 09:05:26 am
I think there's no doubt he's sick, possibly quite sick.

TobyD

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 3836
  • Karma: +88/-3
  • Job offers gratefully accepted
#1745 Re: Trump
October 03, 2020, 09:13:37 am
Several people seem to be speculating if this could be another political distraction move but it seems unlikely as his Doctor also reported it. Trump is now apparently the biggest spreader of covid fake news afterall:

 https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/evanega-et-al-coronavirus-misinformation-submitted-07-23-20-1/080839ac0c22bca8/full.pdf

The same doctor who proclaimed Trump the fittest strongest man he had ever examined. 

Having said that it is admittedly pretty unlikely hes faking it. 

I would think that the main  reason youd move someone to a hospital rather than the white house is that they'd have access to a ventilator if required.  Everything else youd have at the white house I imagine. 

seankenny

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 1008
  • Karma: +114/-11
#1746 Re: Trump
October 03, 2020, 09:20:14 am
Clearly some unhappiness in the Conway household:

https://twitter.com/spenceralthouse/status/1312211105813458944?s=21

tomtom

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 20284
  • Karma: +641/-11
#1747 Re: Trump
October 03, 2020, 09:30:46 am
Interesting analysis in the media. General consensus seems to be that trumps campaign has more to lose from this than gain. Mainly it shifts the focus away from law and order where the GOP were trying to push the news cycle - firmly towards CV19 where Trump has let’s be frank an awful record.

Offwidth

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 1767
  • Karma: +57/-13
    • Offwidth
#1748 Re: Trump
October 03, 2020, 09:38:28 am
Several people seem to be speculating if this could be another political distraction move but it seems unlikely as his Doctor also reported it. Trump is now apparently the biggest spreader of covid fake news afterall:

 https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/evanega-et-al-coronavirus-misinformation-submitted-07-23-20-1/080839ac0c22bca8/full.pdf

The same doctor who proclaimed Trump the fittest strongest man he had ever examined. 

Having said that it is admittedly pretty unlikely hes faking it. 

I would think that the main  reason youd move someone to a hospital rather than the white house is that they'd have access to a ventilator if required.  Everything else youd have at the white house I imagine.

There is a big difference between a bit of positive hyperbole (some of which, it turns out, the doctor didn't even write) and telling a lie to the nation on the President having covid.  Trump must have 'good genes' as most with his attitudes to diet and exercise would have major health problems by now, and many would be dead.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/03/trump-covid-flip-flop-trump

mrjonathanr

Offline
  • *****
  • forum hero
  • Posts: 5384
  • Karma: +242/-6
  • Getting fatter, not fitter.
#1749 Re: Trump
October 03, 2020, 09:58:36 am
They can react quicker there I guess. But maybe it’s for the reverse reason. They’ll have to quarantine and deep clean large parts of the White House - so maybe just easier to move the source somewhere else rather than work around him?

His ego will warm to that 😂 A man who has falsely downplayed the threat of the virus is unlikely to be hamming it up and drawing attention to it now. He’s in Walter Reed because they’re worried.

 

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2024, SimplePortal