[Oldmanmatt]

Several outlets running opinion  pieces, based on this week’s polling, that seem to suggest people have already made up their minds and aren’t really listening.
In fact, support for the impeachment investigation seems to have fallen.

[andy popp]

It's absolutely damning. But as Matt points out, it may make no difference.

[SA Chris]

This must be it, surely??

[cheque]

 

[Will Hunt]

This must be it, surely??

How many times have we heard that before?

[SA Chris]

Sadly, I think I may have copied and pasted that from earlier in the same thread..

[Mr E S Capegoat]

I’m writing a significant ‘opinion piece’ for the next issue of UFCK looking at the capitalist relationship between Trump and Honnold / free solo. Mind bending stuff

Looking at topics such as ‘the death drive’ ‘consumer culture and commoditisation of the love of death’ the distraction effect of rubbernecking and the illusion of free will.

[SA Chris]

Great. I can't fucking wait.

[Mr E S Capegoat]

It’s quite epic, getting all that in 2 or 3 paragraphs. I could probably sum it up for you here? Some sort of equation or heuristic. My understanding is you won’t be reading the finished article.

[Mr E S Capegoat]

Anyway while you’re all focussed on trumps transparency it’s a great distraction from the neoliberal corrupt opposition.

[andy popp]

Blah, blah, blah.

[Mr E S Capegoat]

Who said that? No need to give Chris grief ffs....

[abarro81]

Go back to your thread Dan

[andy popp]

OK Dan, so the last few posts on this thread (including my own) haven't been exactly scintillating - it happens - but you have a remarkable ability to destroy any conversation through a combination of tedium and narcissism.

[Mr E S Capegoat]

I was making a genuine point chaps, just offering some varying perspectives. Are you saying don’t post on here? Not sure how that’s narcissistic? Maybe masochistic given the history with Ukb.

[andy popp]

If you were making a genuine point it was very deeply obscured.

I would never tell anyone where or where not they can post, but I might reserve the right to say when I think (IMHO, to make things clear) they are or are not being constructive.

[Oldmanmatt]

I was making a genuine point chaps, just offering some varying perspectives. Are you saying don’t post on here? Not sure how that’s narcissistic? Maybe masochistic given the history with Ukb.

[teestub]

I know nothing is surprising any more but I really thought this pic of Trump’s notes must be photoshopped

https://www.vox.com/2019/11/20/20974383/trump-big-sharpie-notes-on-impeachment-testimony

[Oldmanmatt]

I know nothing is surprising any more but I really thought this pic of Trump’s notes must be photoshopped

https://www.vox.com/2019/11/20/20974383/trump-big-sharpie-notes-on-impeachment-testimony

Have you heard the rumours about his forgetting what he said a moment before, or calling someone on the phone and then not knowing why he’d called, etc?

If he resigns on health grounds (after securing immunity from state prosecutions (he can only get a presidential pardon for federal crimes)) then I think I might almost believe it’s true.

[webbo]

I wish I could forget what he said a moment ago.

[Mr E S Capegoat]

If you were making a genuine point it was very deeply obscured.

I would never tell anyone where or where not they can post, but I might reserve the right to say when I think (IMHO, to make things clear) they are or are not being constructive.

No conscious attempt to derail the thread from me. I know very little about politics or trump to be fair. Erich Fromm describes leaders like trump as ‘Necrophiliacs’ in his book The Sane Society’ and it’s interesting how this is linked into the capitalist / consumer culture and concepts of alienation and reduced authenticity as well as increased patriotism and idolatry (The Honnold link) in ‘The Pathology of Normalcy’ I’m not sure I’m saying anything to obscure here.
I’m not worried about being told my posts aren’t constructive. The personalisation of it gets a bit wearing but I dig it. The posts may seem inarticulate and annoying or deliberately confusing. The ongoing personalised insults etc are a bit wearing. ‘Go back to where you came from’ ‘tedious narcissist’ having my name inserted into Matt’s cartoon etc. Just saying

[andy popp]

Thanks for coming back to explain. I must admit I woke up with some regrets. I think I spoke out of frustration last night, more than out of a desire to insult.

[tomtom]

I’m writing a significant ‘opinion piece’ for the next issue of UFCK looking at the capitalist relationship between Trump and Honnold / free solo. Mind bending stuff

Looking at topics such as ‘the death drive’ ‘consumer culture and commoditisation of the love of death’ the distraction effect of rubbernecking and the illusion of free will.

Well if you’re trying to introduce a new idea or conversation to a thread then this is an overly obscure way to do it.

The narcissism comes from first promoting your own mag (whether ironically or not - I’m not really sure) - and time can’t really see how the second part fits a trump thread - any more than any other comment about society.

If your post is about the subjects and not about you - then I might expect no reply..

[Mr E S Capegoat]

Hey up Andy, no worries. I fully respect your opinion of course. I asked my wife if she thought I was narcissistic. She said her ex was a narcissist and I was probably ok. 😂

Hey up Tom, I’ll be down the wall today with the little one so happy to explain if I catch up with you there? ✌️💗. Your post above creates the much utilised moral high ground ‘double bind’. Classic in ukc opinion pieces and as a tool to win arguments. Guess I’m fucked on that account.

[andy popp]

I asked my wife if she thought I was narcissistic. She said her ex was a narcissist and I was probably ok. 😂

I meant the post, not you, but my comment was badly phrased.