No lamping at Cliff please.
Quote from: tommytwotone on November 03, 2016, 02:07:18 pmNo lamping at Cliff please. I think that hitting anyone at any crag is actively discouraged.
Yeah right. You used it to blind sheep to stop them running way while you sneak up from behind with your velcro gloves.
In West Wales Lamping meant driving around in a Land Rover with a sodium light shooting badgers/foxes at night...
It is lights that are the issue. If you need lights, its time to go home.
Quote from: Johnny Brown on February 03, 2016, 02:46:55 pmIt is lights that are the issue. If you need lights, its time to go home.I'm tempted to agree with the simplicity of this argument. I know the Eastern Moors rangers are a bit concerned by seeing static lights on the rocks at any given time and in times of sensitive access issues in many areas, creating new ones seems to be a bit inane to me.Respecting the environment and access isn't bringing further problems to the table, when access agreements and management plans for places such as Stanage are pretty uncertain.As climbers we've done so much good work for access and we can just as easily undo it all too, if we are not careful.To quote Henry Folkard again - it's 'Ours to protect'
(Hat tip to Stubbs) BMC latest. No lamping at Cliff please. https://www.thebmc.co.uk/modules/RAD/ViewCrag.aspx?id=465Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk
Quote from: SA Chris on November 03, 2016, 06:09:42 pmYeah right. You used it to blind sheep to stop them running way while you sneak up from behind with your velcro gloves.Foxes/badgers can't see the light from a sodium light...
If it's truly problematic I'm sure we will get to hear about it from Henry.
Quote from: tommytwotone on November 03, 2016, 02:07:18 pm(Hat tip to Stubbs) BMC latest. No lamping at Cliff please. https://www.thebmc.co.uk/modules/RAD/ViewCrag.aspx?id=465Sent from my Moto G (4) using TapatalkNot been up there (at night) recently but realistically, how many of the "lamping crews" are likely to take notice of this advice from the BMC?
Quote from: tommytwotone on November 03, 2016, 02:07:18 pm(Hat tip to Stubbs) BMC latest. No lamping at Cliff please. https://www.thebmc.co.uk/modules/RAD/ViewCrag.aspx?id=465Sent from my Moto G (4) using TapatalkNot been up there (at night) recently but realistically, how many of the "lamping crews" are likely to take notice of this advice from the BMC? I have been up there with lights many moons ago (camping gaz lantern + MTB light), but having seen multiple groups lighting the place up like a film set in the recent past I would agree with the sentiment that it is a pretty antisocial activity in terms of others' enjoyment of the outdoors at night. My argument would be that a couple of headtorches plus moderate powered directed spot would be acceptable but these folks are going full on overkill with their lighting set-ups.Light pollution is a thing and not only in terms of blotting out the stars.
I feel suddenly incredibly fortunate to not have any social media presence that might pressurise me into doing stuff like antisocial night-time bouldering for "likes". What is the world coming to?
the catalyst for the ban was because someone hurt themself
Quotethe catalyst for the ban was because someone hurt themself That's interesting - I don't think anyone mentioned it before? Any details? As in, were they bouldering, was it dark when the accident happened?
I think there was a recent broken leg and an MR call out.
07/05/2015 - 21:15 Almscliffe Crag, North Rigton The team was called out by the ambulance service to assist with a 27 year old male climber who had fallen 3 meters at Almscliffe Crag. Team members assisted ambulance service personnel to treat the casualty before he was stretchered to a waiting ambulance.