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#25 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
May 20, 2015, 11:51:59 pm
TT its significant but also used an excuse/political tool.
The gas stations have to pay a subsidiary like the coal stations. But the gas stations feed the grid much more than coal due to cheap gas

SSE made 1.56bn which was only small growth from 1.55bn in the previous year. Ferry bridge has been two shifting or base loading for a few years as coal is too expensive to sell to the grid. The green Levy's just make it harder to sell them power off peak

The Guardian article was interesting as the subsidy included the global health costs from fossil fuel usage..


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#27 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 04, 2015, 02:04:20 pm
Eggborough has announced its shutting next next year a few of our services team have been told they are not needed any more on the back of it.

In other news  :-\ "shockingly" Hinkley C is not going to start in 2023 ... no shit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34149392
It needs 10 years to build from go ahead. The build is still being contested in EU courts.

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#28 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 04, 2015, 02:17:14 pm
Carbon capture should be the way ahead.

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#29 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 04, 2015, 02:21:12 pm
I thought the whole point of paying a French company to build our nuclear plants was that they'd be able to grease past any European objections - or at least ignore them with an arrogant and very stylish shrug - and build anyway

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#30 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 04, 2015, 03:28:06 pm
I think the French decided non after sampling UK lunch policy - and it's now with Chinese contractors?

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#31 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 04, 2015, 04:34:49 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-34151702

Loosely related, but the demolition of the chimneys will be worth seeing!

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#32 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 07, 2015, 02:06:30 pm
french are still building it as the approved design is the same as flamenville in france.
EDF design with a Areva reactor (french with french).
EDF owe the french government a shit load of money and are struggling. the huge profits they are making off of the existing Nuclear fleet does not seem enough. They are looking to China for outside investment.

The EU oppositions last I heard were from Austria who feel they should get some of the €300m of EU being invested in this for projects in Austria.

It is looking like Anglesey or the lakes could end up with the first of the new nuclear fleet of reactors as they already have funding in place (GE/Hitachi) however they are miles behind in the design phase.

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#33 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 07, 2015, 02:10:29 pm
Carbon capture should be the way ahead.
Drax has EU funding for the scheme to build a pipe line from selby to pump CO2 into the ocean floor. It will be interesting to see how that works as many in the industry are sckeptical and thinks it will make coal/gas less viable.

At the moment gas is the cheapest form of power after nuclear but still relatively dirty compared with wind (if you can compare the two).

Peterhead are also looking at this.

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#34 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 07, 2015, 03:22:36 pm
Mates replacing one of the flare stacks at Peterhead as we speak. Aside from that nuclear must go to the lakes! Can't see it on Anglesey  :-\

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#35 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 07, 2015, 03:23:00 pm
Yeah - UK's got a lot of carbon capture potential - thanks to the swiss cheese (and associated plumbing) under the North Sea..

What the Govt is going to do with domestic Solar power seems bonkers to me at the moment..

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#36 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 07, 2015, 03:31:49 pm
Unfortunately, the number of wells drilled is one of the biggest unknowns in CCS as all those wells drilled provide potential leak points for CO2!

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#37 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 07, 2015, 03:42:54 pm
Mates replacing one of the flare stacks at Peterhead as we speak. Aside from that nuclear must go to the lakes! Can't see it on Anglesey  :-\
Extension to wylfa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wylfa_Nuclear_Power_Station) which is already there.

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#38 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 07, 2015, 03:56:32 pm
Sorry crossed wires, thought you meant a new nuclear plant, as in not an extension. I meant the lakes could have another new one comfortably but Anglesey might not be too impressed about another. Tho it looks a bit bigger than I thought from that link! Not that anyone near it would be impressed!

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#39 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 07, 2015, 04:10:24 pm
They'd be impressed with the opportunity of a well-paying job that doesn't involve heroin or ecstasy

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#40 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 07, 2015, 04:25:43 pm
They'd be impressed with the opportunity of a well-paying job that doesn't involve heroin or ecstasy

Exactly....

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#41 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 07, 2015, 04:26:48 pm
french are still building it as the approved design is the same as flamenville in france.

As Flamenville is going so well, why wouldn't you use it as a base....

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#42 Re: 2023: Will the lights go out?
September 08, 2015, 08:01:36 am
 :lol:

 

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