George Newham did Keen Roof recently. But is Keen Roof actually regarded as 8B? An awful lot of downvotes on UKC and an awful lot of punters getting up it...
It's with sadness that I've downgraded Diluvian on the list https://github.com/bourbonspecial/UKStrongPeople/blob/master/men_boulders.mdHowever I've added Pete as a special mention, as being bumped off the list by downgrades twice seems harsh.
Interestingly, I never actually gave Diluvian 8B (see my insta from 2014).
What is the Benchmark 8B in the UK?
Big grades for bad beta is obvs nonsense, but if Fragile Steps has changed, and was 8B at the time, then I think peewee should definitely still be on.
Also Hamish McArthur needs adding to the list having done Sideshow on the Bowderstone. What a problem to join the list with! 3rd ascent after Varian and JackPal?
What's wrong with losing 1/10 of the list? Surely when people started taking 8A+/B for RoM a similar number went off the list?
[Keen roof/fat lip] has the hallmarks of something in need of a downgrade.
If there's a load of chancers who have done a thing that was once given 8B but has settled to less than that then they should be zapped.
Quote from: Will Hunt on October 06, 2020, 12:34:28 pmIf there's a load of chancers who have done a thing that was once given 8B but has settled to less than that then they should be zapped.Inconceivable that anyone would do a problem because it's got good climbing on it, or any if the other reasons described above. They are clearly all "chancers" and must have all done it just so they can make it onto remus's EliteList.FWIW I've never been there either and for all I know it could be a load of log moves.
Quote from: turnipturned on October 06, 2020, 11:04:54 amInterestingly, I never actually gave Diluvian 8B (see my insta from 2014). the post
But anyhow keen roof has twice as many ascents (on ukc) as fat lip which suggests something about it is easier in some capacity than fat lip despite them being at the same crag.
As this is a slow Tuesday in the (home) office another similarly busy roadside crag for bouldering is the bowderstone surely, but flip flopera (3 ascents), sideshow (3 ascents) etc seem to not get many repeats. Pretty sure only 4 people have climbed 8b on the bowserstone (Varian, Aidan, JackPal, Hamish McArthur??? ). How does that compare to Parisellas or the Tor for roadside venues?