Quote from: remus on February 22, 2019, 09:39:27 amQuote from: T_B on February 22, 2019, 09:30:04 amFFS you have Max Milne on there with an unconfirmed 8B+, seems a bit churlish not to put Ellis on the list. The guy's a beast.There's no doubt that Max has climbed the things he says he has climbed. I'll take him off the list if his line gets repeated and downgraded to 8A+.On the other hand there is plenty of doubt around what Ellis has climbed. He's obvioously a beast, but that doesn't make you an 8B climber. I'd actually be really psyched if there's a video of him on a confirmed 8B (or harder), but at the moment all we've got is unconfirmed grades or unwitnessed ascents.Tb just posted a video of him adding 7 moves into a problem that Mike Adams thought was 8a+. If that doesn't make the cut then quite a few folks need taking off the list.
Quote from: T_B on February 22, 2019, 09:30:04 amFFS you have Max Milne on there with an unconfirmed 8B+, seems a bit churlish not to put Ellis on the list. The guy's a beast.There's no doubt that Max has climbed the things he says he has climbed. I'll take him off the list if his line gets repeated and downgraded to 8A+.On the other hand there is plenty of doubt around what Ellis has climbed. He's obvioously a beast, but that doesn't make you an 8B climber. I'd actually be really psyched if there's a video of him on a confirmed 8B (or harder), but at the moment all we've got is unconfirmed grades or unwitnessed ascents.
FFS you have Max Milne on there with an unconfirmed 8B+, seems a bit churlish not to put Ellis on the list. The guy's a beast.
Now there's a point, if Bulbhaul is 8B then Andy Jackson needs including (he says 8B/+ on this post but I'm sure I spoke to him about it and he said it didn't actually feel much harder than Keelhaul which is consensus 8A):https://www.instagram.com/p/BT2THfJj-yl/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1h3ackv92ap6hEither way, I honestly think that's one of the slickest ascents I've ever seen. He just flows through every move. Awesome stuff.
Quote from: remus on October 03, 2018, 03:52:41 pmEllis: indeed. Lots of doubt over the FAs. Does fatman even exist any more? I've heard doubts over Dark Matter too (Ellis' ascent, not the problem itself). Verdict: gonna leave him off for the moment. Happy to add back in if there's unequivocal evidence.FFS you have Max Milne on there with an unconfirmed 8B+, seems a bit churlish not to put Ellis on the list. The guy's a beast.
Ellis: indeed. Lots of doubt over the FAs. Does fatman even exist any more? I've heard doubts over Dark Matter too (Ellis' ascent, not the problem itself). Verdict: gonna leave him off for the moment. Happy to add back in if there's unequivocal evidence.
What's Dan Warren done?
Max Milne has also done an 8B FA called Tension (also unrepeated).
Quote from: bendavison on February 22, 2019, 05:19:15 pm Max Milne has also done an 8B FA called Tension (also unrepeated). https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/c.php?i=487447
David Fitzgerald? Pretty sure there's some video evidence of him climbing above 8B
Up the list he goes! https://github.com/bourbonspecial/UKStrongPeople/blob/master/men_boulders.md