[Doylo]

barrows -Perhaps controversial, but I don't think the list should contain #biggradesforbadbeta, so Mortal Immortal should be on at 8B, Pilgrimage at 8B.

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What about taking 8B for Keen and Louis Armstrong missing out the cruxes? 

[monkey boy]

Micky has done Big Paw but not Story of Two Worlds, he's also done Monk's Life, Kheops Assis, Dirt Grows the Flowers (left exit), Black Eagle, and Entlinge, all of which are 8B+. He did the FA of King of Limbs and thought it harder than anything he did that trip.

I personally think grades are more dependent on what the majority of people will do rather than one person doing something differently and downgrading. Malc, Mike and Jack all did Pilgrimage with no knee bars, compared with just Alex using knees and so it should be considered as 8B+ still. Time will tell with Mortal but for now two people have done it with no knees compared to one with knees.

Ned said 8B for Bordello but I think James thought 8B+.

People seem to consider Golden shadow 8B now and Fragile steps as 8A+.

Earl and Ryan have both done loads of 8B's, both have done Cypher and The Ace.

Like Ben said Varian, Turner and I have done Bewilderness.

I thought Keen Roof was 8B, I think it just gets ascents because of how accessible it is and mostly in ok condition.

[bendavison]

Micky has done Big Paw but not Story of Two Worlds

Oops, I was thinking of the Dagger.

[Danny]

Hasn't Micky Paige done Big Paw?
And David Fitzgerald's done New Base Line, Big Paw and Voyager SS?

Dave Fitzgerald is not a UK man.

[Bradders]

- Aidan Roberts has climbed Oliphants Dawn, not Aidan Dunne.

Aidan Roberts ought also to be bumped up from 8B+ having done Monkey Wedding 8C in June/July.

Tom Peckitt did Amandla 8B+ a couple of years ago.

Potentially controversial, but should Bransby be in for Lanny at 8B? One repeat by Varian who said later that he thought it harder than High Fidelity (without actually stating a grade).

Billy Ridal has done a few others at 8B, The Vice being the main one that comes to mind/Instagram.

And David Fitzgerald's done New Base Line, Big Paw and Voyager SS?

He has, but he isn't from the UK...

Pete Wilkinson - Fragile Steps, Rocklands

With the greatest of respect to Pete, I think this has been downgraded to 8A+ now.

Is Keen Roof still considered 8B?

I'm not aware of anyone who's done it who has proposed a downgrade. I'd suggest that it gets done so regularly more because it's a) fairly basic, b) often in condition and c) in close, accessible proximity to a large population of strong climbers.

[Doylo]

Bransby’s done BonAtrocity anyways.

[remus]

Good updates, thanks all https://github.com/bourbonspecial/UKStrongPeople/blob/master/men_boulders.md

For simplicity I've tried to stick with guidebook grades.

[T_B]

Tom Williams did the sit to The Tracks (Dead and Bloated). Is that not 8B?

[cheque]

-Polish Dave's full name. Dawid Skoczylas. As Alex said, he should be on there for Serenata.

Isn't he Polish though?

[reeve]

-Polish Dave's full name. Dawid Skoczylas. As Alex said, he should be on there for Serenata.

Isn't he Polish though?

What makes you think that?

[User deactivated]

Desroy did RA Clyde while trying the full line. May have done more 8bs but that's one I know of.

[remus]

-Polish Dave's full name. Dawid Skoczylas. As Alex said, he should be on there for Serenata.

Isn't he Polish though?

I dont think it's worth being super strict on the nationality thing. Currently I've been using "Is british or has lived in the UK for quite a while" as the criteria.

[turnipturned]

8B

Tom Williams: (Lots) Hourglass, Ace, Louis Armstong etc.
Liam Desroy: Vecchio Leone, Riverbed etc
Eli Cartwright: Riverbed
Alex Moore: Isla d'encanta
Liam Fyfe: Ropes of Maui (and some FA's in Wales I think)
Will Buck: Rhythm (some consider 8A+, but I personally think 8B for sure)
Alex Waterhouse: Merlin's Beard
Dave Cowl: Real Keelhaul

8B+

Steve Dunning: Super Furry Animals, Dreamtime (pre break)
Dave Jones: Warpath

[SA Chris]

I dont think it's worth being super strict on the nationality thing. Currently I've been using "Is british or has lived in the UK for quite a while" as the criteria.

Then does Nacho Sanchez qualify??

[36chambers]

I thought Keen Roof was 8B, I think it just gets ascents because of how accessible it is and mostly in ok condition.

I'm not aware of anyone who's done it who has proposed a downgrade. I'd suggest that it gets done so regularly more because it's a) fairly basic, b) often in condition and c) in close, accessible proximity to a large population of strong climbers.

Cheers, I was just asking because of the UKC grade votes and was wondering if knee pads had lowered the grade or something.

[remus]

Excellent Knowledge as per Dan https://github.com/bourbonspecial/UKStrongPeople/blob/master/men_boulders.md

[Bradders]

Cheers, I was just asking because of the UKC grade votes and was wondering if knee pads had lowered the grade or something.

It is a bit all over the place on UKC actually isn't it, e.g. Will Smith using an extremely lanky sequence. Who knows. I'm sure the consensus is still 8B though.

If we're wanting to get together all the boulders people have done at their max grade then Ash WH has also done Keen Roof, Vecchio Leone, Ropes of Maui and Light Saber in Rocklands.

Luke Fletcher did Ropes of Maui the other day but proposed 8A+ 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnzKDR3jj4p/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1n9cz24g4wuu4

[Andy B]

Hiya Remus.
I have done Vice President, Flor de Loto, (and Bindu, but that's 8b in one guide and 8a+ in the other).

[Bradders]

Hamish Potokar recently did Sanction and Pressure, both 8B at Dumby.

[remus]

Thanks Andy, added you. https://github.com/bourbonspecial/UKStrongPeople/blob/master/men_boulders.md

Luke Fletcher did Ropes of Maui the other day but proposed 8A+ 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnzKDR3jj4p/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1n9cz24g4wuu4

Let's hope he wasn't trying to avoid inclusion in the list as he's been added.

[remus]

Hamish Potokar recently did Sanction and Pressure, both 8B at Dumby.

Good knowledge Bradders, list updated.

[Orrincoley]

For the sake of accuracy,

-Alex Waterhouse did the FA of Merlins Beard
-Will Smith did the FA of Fat Lip SS and Weeding The Lip (Weedkiller into Fat Lip) but proposed 8B for both as he claims "I Can't climb 8B+)
-I did the FA of Ladybird Orgy (but its a trav so should that even count?)

[gme]

Some young scottish kid did a number of 8B+s a few years ago. Cant remember his name though.

Evan?

[AMorris]

Phil Rose did Keen Roof a few years back

[remus]

Strong FA knowledge Orrin, updated https://github.com/bourbonspecial/UKStrongPeople/blob/master/men_boulders.md Phil rose added.